7715Re: [FJGRailroad] Adams & Westlake, A&W Co., Adlake
- Jul 1, 2002Thanks Paul, for taking the time to answer.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:54:16 -0400 "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
> I may have to stand corrected on this:________________________________________________________________
> My recollection is that the term New York Central Lines was the
> used to define the railroads independently operated but controlled
> stock ownership by the New York Central Railroad Company, viz,
> Central; Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis; and the
> and Lake Erie (each of these companies had interests in other
> too). Together the "Railroad" and the "Lines" form the New York
> System. After the twenties, the legal and financial relationship
> the lines and the railroad matured through consolidations and leases
> but the
> leased lines, largely those west of Buffalo, would remain the NYC
> Ultimately all the roads coalesced (merged and consolidated) as the
> New York
> Central System. The process was gradual covering the better part of
> fifty years following the formation of the NYCRR in 1914 (the
> original NYCRR
> disappeared with its consolidation with the HRRR in 1869).
> Now most of these western leased lines had lanterns, locks and keys
> with their independent initials and the markings NYCL used on
> lanterns, keys
> and locks apparently did not apply to them while they maintained
> independent operations. So did the Boston and Albany.
> My guess is the initials were used on material supplied for NYC
> not using their corporate names, other than the NYCRR proper, until
> the term
> New York Central System became used by all the properties. I have
> lamps and keys marked NYCL but have none today to check out the
> dates. All were acquired in the Mohawk Valley If someone reading
> this has
> a NYCL Dietz Vesta lantern they can let us know the stamping date on
> the lid
> (S mo-yr) below the patent dates. Also under the keyhole cover or on
> pin of Adlake locks can be found dates which can help you secure a
> frame for use of those initials.
> Re the cut of the key. You can check with Key, Lock and Lantern
> (they have
> a web site) to see if it matches any of the known cuts for one of
> the NYC
> companies. Someone from that group would also be able to tell you
> for what
> the cut was used (rip track, switch etc.).
> As an asisde the Pennsylvania Railroad maintained a separate
> corporate form
> for its lines west of Pittsburgh - PRR was used for lines east of
> Pittsburgh; Pennsylvania Lines for those west.
> >From: Knixrule1@...
> >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
> >To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [FJGRailroad] Adams & Westlake, A&W Co., Adlake
> >Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:42:55 -0400
> > For the key experts out there, I have a NYCL brass switch
> key, did
> >it go to a different department? It is not the same cut as my
> brass NYC
> >key that I used to use on all the switches at sandbank.
> > Does anyone have a brief history of Adlake and the time
> periods that
> >they changed their name? My NYCRR key reads A&W Company Chicago,
> >all the others read ADLAKE?
> > Steve Myers
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