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6544Re: [FJGRailroad] Amtrak

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  • Knixrule1@juno.com
    Feb 5, 2002
      Paul,

      I have strong conservative leanings, but I agree with you. Oh the
      poor working man, how long can they pile these bricks on his back?

      Steve

      On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 11:06:47 -0500 "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
      writes:
      > That's important to keep in mind. A principal function of Amtrak is
      > to
      > provide pork in the politician's district. Pork keeps the poor
      > folks fed
      > and the politicians fat. Many of us decry pork but a far greater
      > number of
      > us live off it, not just Amtrak - everywhere. Pork is good for the
      > US
      > economy. Back to Canada, they call their pork socialism.
      >
      > It's a form of redistribution. Just depends on whose getting forked
      > and
      > who's eating. Everybody gets their share, rich and poor alike.
      > Unfortunately it's the middle income earner who is paying a
      > disproportionate
      > share of the bill. Reagan nailed us to the cross with his tax
      > increases,
      > then Bush1; nasty Bill did a major restructuring with his tax
      > package (I
      > believe his only piece of legislation he ever got through in 8
      > years) when
      > he still had a Democratic congress in 1993 when he redistributed the
      > burde
      > to the very wealth and corporations. He redistributed a significant
      > amount
      > down to the lower income levels be he too provided nothing to the
      > working
      > middle class (40 to 200 M)
      >
      > What's this got to do with railroads?
      >
      > PKL
      >
      >
      >
      > >From: "Richard A. Finn" <ransjfinn@...>
      > >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      > >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Amtrak
      > >Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 10:38:31 -0500
      > >
      > >Steve, It's called "PORK" by the politicians.
      > >
      > >Knixrule1@... wrote:
      > >
      > > > Amtrak is a political potato, started by Nixon it is still the
      > baby
      > > > of
      > > > the democrats. It shows the difference between the two parties
      > belief
      > > >
      > > > systems, one to privatize and the other to control everything.
      > It
      > > > reminds me of the mess called Conrail in her early years, forever
      > > > creating five year plans to become profitable but couldn't wean
      > her
      > > > from
      > > > the free and easy tax dollars. She was the joke of the railroad
      > > > industry
      > > > and lived with names like "different circus-same clowns". It was
      > > > under
      > > > Reagan that Conrail was told to crap or get off the pot,
      > Elizabeth
      > > > Dole
      > > > as payback for Bobs help getting Ron elected, was named sec of
      > > > transportation. Bags of money were exchanged and out came
      > Elizabeths
      > > > backing for the entire system to be sold to the NS. This
      > created the
      > > > "let Conrail be Conrail" movement and turned big blue into a real
      > > > railroad. Amtrak is well established in New York state, and we
      > pay
      > > > very
      > > > high taxes for such benefits. THe northeast makes money with
      > > > passenger
      > > > rail service but when the republicans put the squeeze on Amtrak
      > to be
      > > > profitable and free of tax dollars, they turn to attract freight
      > from
      > > > profitable private railroads to attach at the end of their
      > trains.
      > > > Amtrak tried to bid on the UPS business and take it from the
      > private
      > > > sector. Is it right for a quasi-governmental company to use your
      > > > track
      > > > and then go after your business while supporting themselves with
      > tax
      > > > dollars ? It is like the post office selling ties and coffee
      > cups
      > > > while
      > > > offering poor mail service and Joes Tie Shop next door has to pay
      > > > property taxes, sales taxes, license and registration fees but is
      > > > trying
      > > > to make a living selling ties. Why was super steel built in
      > > > Schenectady
      > > > county and the old turbos reserected when there was no need for
      > the
      > > > factory? Why did state and local politicians flock to the ribbon
      > > > cutting, but now the doors are quietly closing at super steel,
      > and who
      > > >
      > > > payed for the little game of reviving "locomotive building in
      > > > Schenectady"? There will be an Amtrak and they will grow and
      > cut back
      > > >
      > > > depending on who runs Washington, my concern is for the working
      > man
      > > > just
      > > > trying to make a living and retirement. I love trains and to
      > me, the
      > > > more the merrier, but Amtrak does have some problems to solve, if
      > > > Uncle
      > > > Sam stepped in back in the 1960's to help passenger service,
      > rather
      > > > than
      > > > force, rape, and tax the rail industry to death while paying to
      > build
      > > > and
      > > > maintain roads for trucks and busses, rivers and canals for
      > barges,
      > > > and
      > > > airports and controllers for planes, we might have a better rail
      > > > system
      > > > for passengers.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Steve Myers
      > > > ________________________________________________________________
      >
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