4671Re: [FJGRailroad] Re:Northville in the 20th Century
- Jun 25, 2001Outside the summer season all trains north of Gloversville were or might
have been mixed. This is of course prior to the coming of the gasoline cars
obviously. Interestingly the derailment of No. 14 near Becketts, north of
Mayfield, was train 15, one of the scheduled trains. Extra trains rans as
required but the engines were small and the trains were not really that long
or more importantly heavy. Remember freight cars of the era ranged from 29
feet to 36 feet up to the twenties. Much of the freight handled by the FJ&G
was LCL on the north end, handled through the freight houses. Northville
had two; Cranberry creek and Kingsboro used one end of the station and
Mayfield used the original station building attached on the north end of the
In the summer the schedule included several passenger trains. I've had some
fun identifying the crew utilization for the regular schedule. One crew was
headquartered at Northville. In 1922 Frank Robinson Sr. moved to
Gloversville. That is the year the gas cars went into service and the first
train from Gloversville went to Northville before the first southbound. On
August 21, 1922 the gas cars went into the regular schedule, after which the
only "regular" weekday steam train went to Broadalbin and was run by the
Gloversville yard crew. There were still five steam operated trains to
Northville on Sundays.
When you look at timetable No. 1 of Sept. 17, 1922, there is only five
minutes between the first arrival at Northville and the earliest departure.
Even the gas cars had to be turned so I think this is evidence there was a
crew home terminaled there, yet, but it wasn't Frank Robinson. Frank retired
in 1925 and I believe but don't know, that he went home to Northville.
George R. was already in Gloversville as was Frank Jr. who had been there
since 1910. Fred Dunson the senior engineer's last record at Gloversville is
1920. I don't know much more about him yet, but he was the oldest engineer
on the railroad. Whether he went back to Northville for the one train from
there, retired or died I need to find out. Fred Dunson was the second man on
the engineer's roster in 1877 behind W(illiam??) Maxfield.
The long sidings at Northville, Cranberry Creek and south of the Mayfield
bridge were built to accommodate the large excursion trains - so they could
get out of the way of the regular trains; unfortunately not for the freight
trains or the line might have been relocated.
>Subject: [FJGRailroad] Re:Northville in the 20th Century
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:58:35 -0000
>How many of the trains running to Northville were mixed freight and
>passenger? What was a typical freight to Northville..2 cars, 5 cars,
>or more. Also, the long passing track at Cranberry Creek must have
>been for freight trains of lower standing to "go in the hole" or allow
>trains moving in opposite or the same direction to pass. That was the
>only long passing track between Gloversville and Northville.
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