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  • paul larner
    Jan 6, 2000
      Outsiders refered to the line as the "Huckleberry". I found this name in
      both the Troy and Little Falls newspapers of the late 1880's and early 90's.

      PKL


      >From: "Carl Nellis" <nellisc@...>
      >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >To: <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
      >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:04:07 -0700
      >
      >Yes - but I don't recall if it was pre Leader Herald (Morning Herald/Leader
      >Republican) or post era.
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Randy & Lorraine Decker <rldecker@...>
      > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
      > Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:05 PM
      > Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      >
      >
      > Carl that is great it is in print that way? was it the leader? Great
      >HA!
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Carl Nellis
      > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 9:46 PM
      > Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      >
      >
      > A newspaper columnist called it the Funny, Jumpy and Gruesome
      >Railroad in the 1950's.
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Greg <|:o) <wiffles@...>
      > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
      > Date: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:56 PM
      > Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      >
      >
      > doesanyone know what the workers knicknamed the railroad?
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: aakeller@...
      > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:11 PM
      > Subject: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      >
      >
      > The Leader-Herald
      > Gloversville, New York
      > "Company considers use of rail line"
      > January 5, 2000
      > By Michael Anich
      >
      >
      > The Leader-Herald
      >
      > JOHNSTOWN -- A Johnstown Industrial Park company is
      >interested in reopening a stretch of the abandoned FJ&G Railroad, but the
      >plan may not be economically feasible, officials say.
      >
      > Paint manufacturer Benjamin Moore & Co. has expressed some
      >interest in reopening the old rail line from the village of Fonda to the
      >city of Johnstown to help transport materials and boost business.
      >
      > Benjamin Moore, located off Union Avenue at the Johnstown
      >Industrial Park, approached the Fulton County Economic Development Corp.
      >about the FJ&G matter about two years ago, plant Manager Bob Nowicki said
      >Tuesday. He said the company's interest lingers.
      >
      > "We have expressed some interest in it (FJ&G reopening),"
      >said Nowicki. "It would certainly help our facility out as far as
      >expansion."
      >
      > Benjamin Moore has been expanding for the last couple
      >years. Nowicki said the company is looking at its latest expansion of its
      >warehouse by raising that roof to create an extra 10,000 square feet of
      >space for more equipment.
      >
      > Nowicki said the company approached the EDC about
      >reopening the old railroad from Fonda to Johnstown -- a path also being
      >considered for the expansion of Fulton County's Rail Trail, a walking a
      >bicycle path that currently runs from Gloversville to Johnstown.
      >
      > Nowicki said EDC Executive Vice President Jeff Bray
      >estimated it might cost about $3 million to reopen that stretch of the
      >railroad.
      >
      > But Nowicki noted he approached the EDC before the new
      >Wal-Mart Regional Food Distribution Center for the Johnstown Industrial
      >Park was announced in August 1998, and wasn't sure if the plan was still
      >feasible.
      >
      > The distribution center is on land where part of the old
      >FJ&G runs.
      >
      > Bray said today, "We did look into the issue (reopening
      >the FJ&G) about three years ago, when Benjamin Moore brought it to our
      >attention. It was real cost prohibitive." He said there wasn't enough
      >demand to warrant the expense, which he put at "well over" $2 million.
      >
      > He said the EDC did some evaluations of the cost of such a
      >project. Bray said any railroad would now have to go around the Wal-Mart
      >site. Bray said he last talked to Nowicki about a year ago, and unless
      >there is a project or series of projects that warrants the rail reopening,
      >it might not be feasible.
      >
      > Johnstown City Attorney Susan Palmer Johnson said today
      >the property along the old FJ&G path from Fonda to Johnstown is owned by a
      >corporation -- Fulton Railroad Properties Inc. There are three directors
      >from Johnstown, including Johnson; and three from Gloversville.
      >
      > "The sole purpose of that (corporation) was to preserve
      >that railroad bed," said Johnson. She said the board meets periodically
      >when issues about the abandoned railroad arise.
      >
      > But Johnson said she wasn't sure if it would be feasible
      >to reopen the railroad, and was unsure how a connection could be made
      >across Route 5. She said she had been aware of Benjamin Moore's interest,
      >but not lately.
      >
      > "We know it's been floating around, but we didn't know
      >that it's current," she said.
      >
      > Nowicki said Benjamin Moore has not been in touch with
      >Wal-Mart about reopening the railroad.
      >
      > Wal-Mart spokesman John Bisio in Bentonville, Ark., said
      >today the giant retailer has not been contacted by Benjamin Moore. He said
      >Wal-Mart had no comment at this time, and he was unsure whether Wal-Mart
      >"has any bearing" on any plan to possibly reopen the railroad.
      >
      > The $45 million, 868,000-square-foot Wal-Mart distribution
      >facility is due to open in June, with initial creation of 360 jobs.
      >
      > The Fulton County Regional Chamber of Commerce & Industry
      >is leading Fulton County's Rail Trail project. The only developed part of
      >the trail is just under three miles from Johnstown to Gloversville. The
      >next phase of the project calls for development of the trail from
      >Gloversville to Vail Mills. Eventually, the chamber hopes to develop the
      >project from the village of Fonda north to Broadalbin.
      >
      > James Mraz, director of the Fulton County Planning
      >Department, said that as part of the abandonment process, the
      >Cooperstown-based Delaware & Otsego Corp. pulled the tracks out along the
      >FJ&G in the 1980s.
      >
      > As part of the recreational trail project, Mraz said the
      >chamber would have to bypass the original railroad bed. "Because the
      >Wal-Mart project took a part of the section of the railroad, if the trail
      >is built from Johnstown south, it would be routed around the facility," he
      >said.
      >
      > Johnstown Mayor William M. Pollak said Tuesday he didn't
      >know the paint company was interested in the old FJ&G.
      >
      > "This is the first I've heard of this," he said. Pollak
      >added that the land on which the old railroad once ran is still "not
      >technically" the city's.
      >
      > Lisa McCoy, chamber president, was also unaware Tuesday of
      >Benjamin Moore's interest in reopening part of the old rail line. But she
      >noted she has only been at her chamber job since last April.
      >
      > "We'll work with whoever possible to make sure all
      >interested parties are happy on this," she stated.
      >
      > McCoy said that on one hand, the chamber doesn't want to
      >impede economic development. But she said the chamber also feels the Rail
      >Trail -- if it is eventually built in the southern part of Fulton County --
      >will be a benefit to employees of the new Wal-Mart facility and any other
      >Johnstown Industrial Park companies that want to use the trail.
      >
      > "Obviously, they're (Benjamin Moore) not going to jump
      >into something that's not fiscally prudent," McCoy added.
      >
      > Sean Geraghty of the Fulton County Planning Department --
      >who has been working on technical aspects of the Rail Trail project for the
      >chamber -- said today, "That's (reopening the railroad) going to be a
      >tremendous undertaking. You would need a railyard, for one thing."
      >
      > Benjamin Moore was named the EDC's 1999 Outstanding
      >Business. Earlier last year, EDC officials said the company has continued
      >to grow since moving a factory to Fulton County in 1989. The plant last
      >year had about 65 employees, but has seen its production increase
      >five-fold, according to the EDC.
      >
      > The company produced more than 5 million gallons of paint
      >in 1998. In 1991, Benjamin Moore began local production of latex resin. The
      >EDC said the Benjamin Moore plant in Johnstown was named the most efficient
      >plant in operation, companywide. It services 400 dealers in New York,
      >Vermont, Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia and Kentucky. It also produces
      >paint for other Benjamin Moore plants.
      >
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