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  • Paul Charland
    Jan 5, 2000
      I se that since I returned the post and disabled the HTML that the three Enviro
      ads have also been disabled. Maybe that's a solution.

      Paul

      paul larner wrote:

      > That was my question some weeks ago, but some of the other fellows weren't
      > getting them. I suspected they were responsible for problems, since
      > disappeared, I was having downloading the the eMail. Expect since nothing
      > is for nothing we're getting a little solicitation.
      >
      > PKL
      >
      > >From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
      > >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      > >Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:26:37 -0500
      > >
      > >Who keeps adding the EPA/EDF ads to the bottom of the FJ&G postings?
      > >Three on the bottom of the last one alone!
      > >
      > >Paul
      > >
      > >Randy & Lorraine Decker wrote:
      > >
      > > > I have heard of the FUNK JUNKTOWN & GOOBERSVILLE? but I would love to
      > > > here another?
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: Greg <|:o)
      > > > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:55 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      > > > doesanyone know what the workers knicknamed the railroad?
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: aakeller@...
      > > > To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:11 PM
      > > > Subject: [FJGRailroad] FJ&G TO REOPEN?
      > > > The Leader-Herald
      > > > Gloversville, New York
      > > > "Company considers use of rail line"
      > > > January 5, 2000
      > > > By Michael Anich
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > The Leader-Herald
      > > >
      > > > JOHNSTOWN -- A Johnstown Industrial Park company
      > > > is interested in reopening a stretch of the
      > > > abandoned FJ&G Railroad, but the plan may not be
      > > > economically feasible, officials say.
      > > >
      > > > Paint manufacturer Benjamin Moore & Co. has
      > > > expressed some interest in reopening the old rail
      > > > line from the village of Fonda to the city of
      > > > Johnstown to help transport materials and boost
      > > > business.
      > > >
      > > > Benjamin Moore, located off Union Avenue at the
      > > > Johnstown Industrial Park, approached the Fulton
      > > > County Economic Development Corp. about the FJ&G
      > > > matter about two years ago, plant Manager Bob
      > > > Nowicki said Tuesday. He said the company's
      > > > interest lingers.
      > > >
      > > > "We have expressed some interest in it (FJ&G
      > > > reopening)," said Nowicki. "It would certainly
      > > > help our facility out as far as expansion."
      > > >
      > > > Benjamin Moore has been expanding for the last
      > > > couple years. Nowicki said the company is looking
      > > > at its latest expansion of its warehouse by
      > > > raising that roof to create an extra 10,000 square
      > > > feet of space for more equipment.
      > > >
      > > > Nowicki said the company approached the EDC about
      > > > reopening the old railroad from Fonda to Johnstown
      > > > -- a path also being considered for the expansion
      > > > of Fulton County's Rail Trail, a walking a bicycle
      > > > path that currently runs from Gloversville to
      > > > Johnstown.
      > > >
      > > > Nowicki said EDC Executive Vice President Jeff
      > > > Bray estimated it might cost about $3 million to
      > > > reopen that stretch of the railroad.
      > > >
      > > > But Nowicki noted he approached the EDC before the
      > > > new Wal-Mart Regional Food Distribution Center for
      > > > the Johnstown Industrial Park was announced in
      > > > August 1998, and wasn't sure if the plan was still
      > > > feasible.
      > > >
      > > > The distribution center is on land where part of
      > > > the old FJ&G runs.
      > > >
      > > > Bray said today, "We did look into the issue
      > > > (reopening the FJ&G) about three years ago, when
      > > > Benjamin Moore brought it to our attention. It was
      > > > real cost prohibitive." He said there wasn't
      > > > enough demand to warrant the expense, which he put
      > > > at "well over" $2 million.
      > > >
      > > > He said the EDC did some evaluations of the cost
      > > > of such a project. Bray said any railroad would
      > > > now have to go around the Wal-Mart site. Bray said
      > > > he last talked to Nowicki about a year ago, and
      > > > unless there is a project or series of projects
      > > > that warrants the rail reopening, it might not be
      > > > feasible.
      > > >
      > > > Johnstown City Attorney Susan Palmer Johnson said
      > > > today the property along the old FJ&G path from
      > > > Fonda to Johnstown is owned by a corporation --
      > > > Fulton Railroad Properties Inc. There are three
      > > > directors from Johnstown, including Johnson; and
      > > > three from Gloversville.
      > > >
      > > > "The sole purpose of that (corporation) was to
      > > > preserve that railroad bed," said Johnson. She
      > > > said the board meets periodically when issues
      > > > about the abandoned railroad arise.
      > > >
      > > > But Johnson said she wasn't sure if it would be
      > > > feasible to reopen the railroad, and was unsure
      > > > how a connection could be made across Route 5. She
      > > > said she had been aware of Benjamin Moore's
      > > > interest, but not lately.
      > > >
      > > > "We know it's been floating around, but we didn't
      > > > know that it's current," she said.
      > > >
      > > > Nowicki said Benjamin Moore has not been in touch
      > > > with Wal-Mart about reopening the railroad.
      > > >
      > > > Wal-Mart spokesman John Bisio in Bentonville,
      > > > Ark., said today the giant retailer has not been
      > > > contacted by Benjamin Moore. He said Wal-Mart had
      > > > no comment at this time, and he was unsure whether
      > > > Wal-Mart "has any bearing" on any plan to possibly
      > > > reopen the railroad.
      > > >
      > > > The $45 million, 868,000-square-foot Wal-Mart
      > > > distribution facility is due to open in June, with
      > > > initial creation of 360 jobs.
      > > >
      > > > The Fulton County Regional Chamber of Commerce &
      > > > Industry is leading Fulton County's Rail Trail
      > > > project. The only developed part of the trail is
      > > > just under three miles from Johnstown to
      > > > Gloversville. The next phase of the project calls
      > > > for development of the trail from Gloversville to
      > > > Vail Mills. Eventually, the chamber hopes to
      > > > develop the project from the village of Fonda
      > > > north to Broadalbin.
      > > >
      > > > James Mraz, director of the Fulton County Planning
      > > > Department, said that as part of the abandonment
      > > > process, the Cooperstown-based Delaware & Otsego
      > > > Corp. pulled the tracks out along the FJ&G in the
      > > > 1980s.
      > > >
      > > > As part of the recreational trail project, Mraz
      > > > said the chamber would have to bypass the original
      > > > railroad bed. "Because the Wal-Mart project took a
      > > > part of the section of the railroad, if the trail
      > > > is built from Johnstown south, it would be routed
      > > > around the facility," he said.
      > > >
      > > > Johnstown Mayor William M. Pollak said Tuesday he
      > > > didn't know the paint company was interested in
      > > > the old FJ&G.
      > > >
      > > > "This is the first I've heard of this," he said.
      > > > Pollak added that the land on which the old
      > > > railroad once ran is still "not technically" the
      > > > city's.
      > > >
      > > > Lisa McCoy, chamber president, was also unaware
      > > > Tuesday of Benjamin Moore's interest in reopening
      > > > part of the old rail line. But she noted she has
      > > > only been at her chamber job since last April.
      > > >
      > > > "We'll work with whoever possible to make sure all
      > > > interested parties are happy on this," she stated.
      > > >
      > > > McCoy said that on one hand, the chamber doesn't
      > > > want to impede economic development. But she said
      > > > the chamber also feels the Rail Trail -- if it is
      > > > eventually built in the southern part of Fulton
      > > > County -- will be a benefit to employees of the
      > > > new Wal-Mart facility and any other Johnstown
      > > > Industrial Park companies that want to use the
      > > > trail.
      > > >
      > > > "Obviously, they're (Benjamin Moore) not going to
      > > > jump into something that's not fiscally prudent,"
      > > > McCoy added.
      > > >
      > > > Sean Geraghty of the Fulton County Planning
      > > > Department -- who has been working on technical
      > > > aspects of the Rail Trail project for the chamber
      > > > -- said today, "That's (reopening the railroad)
      > > > going to be a tremendous undertaking. You would
      > > > need a railyard, for one thing."
      > > >
      > > > Benjamin Moore was named the EDC's 1999
      > > > Outstanding Business. Earlier last year, EDC
      > > > officials said the company has continued to grow
      > > > since moving a factory to Fulton County in 1989.
      > > > The plant last year had about 65 employees, but
      > > > has seen its production increase five-fold,
      > > > according to the EDC.
      > > >
      > > > The company produced more than 5 million gallons
      > > > of paint in 1998. In 1991, Benjamin Moore began
      > > > local production of latex resin. The EDC said the
      > > > Benjamin Moore plant in Johnstown was named the
      > > > most efficient plant in operation, companywide. It
      > > > services 400 dealers in New York, Vermont,
      > > > Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia and Kentucky. It
      > > > also produces paint for other Benjamin Moore
      > > > plants.
      > > >
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