15285RE: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21
- Feb 15, 2012About those tokens. They were a standard size, except for the Amsterdam nickel tokens and could be used in the NYCity subway and other bus lines. If a token was used off system the carrier could bill the cost back to the token owner - not unlike other forms of interline settlements. Hence the need to keep them locked up. Today I don't believe tokens of this type are used anywhere for transit.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:50:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21Paul-A lot of those documents and old office supplies were stored upstairs of the freight office. I had gone up there a few times and looked over the old ledgers.Most were payroll ledgers,some dating back in the 30's & 40's.Old typewriters and bags of tokens were up there.After awhile,Walt had the upstairs clean out,and what happen to the contents,no idea.From: Paul Larner <pklarner@...>
To: FJGRailroad <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21IIRC, there were bushel bags full of tokens kept in a room adjacent the freight office. There must be tens of thousands of those available to the collectors. They were originally kept in the vaults of the GOB which burned in 1969. The contents were moved across the street after the fire.
Mark, do you know what happened to the mass of documents that remained in the room when DO took over in 1974? DFN and I had the opportunity to go through them one afternoon, however there wasn't time to look at everything.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:17:16 -0800
Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21
When I worked on the FJG. I did get a bag of tokens when they had the trolley.From: Gino's Railpage <fjgrailroad@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21When they were in Gloversville or down on the NYSW?On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Mark Wilber <mwilber2001@...> wrote:Just think,I had golden opportunity to take anything off those units,and I never did.From: akeller_1979 <akeller_1979@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:39 AM
Subject: [FJGRailroad] Re: Scrapping No. 20 & 21Gino,
I had forgotten that you had dates attached to your scrapping photos.
Your first shot is dated April, 1987; your second is dated June 5th, 1987. Perhaps they sat around for another month until July, 1987? It is unlikely the job was a critical one and they may have done it "when men and time were available."
It has long been stated that parts to one or both of the FJ&G units went into the rebuild of NYS&W No. 206. It is possible that the units were slowly picked clean for a few years leading up to the Summer of '87.
According to this, No. 206 had been rebuilt back in '85:
It is too bad a few 'parts' to the FJ&G units didn't remain. I would have liked to have had the number boards, the bells, the throttles, or whatever else I could have. The builder's plates, the marker lamps, and the original horns were removed in Gloversville. I wonder where they all went. (Paul?)
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