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11682Niagara Falls and NYC tower 65

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  • paul larner
    Mar 4, 2006
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      Paul,

      Thanks for the references. I neglected to give you the date of the
      timetable I used. It was from April 1960. Sometime after the
      consolidations, rationalizations and installation of TCS or CTC the term
      control point (CP) came into use. There were a number of railroads serving
      Niagara Falls in the 60's and earlier. Most remaining consolidated into Con
      Rail, obviously an apt road name. Going up there today you can see the
      ramnants and road beds of various different routes that converged on the
      Falls. The present main track between CP 8, near Black Rock, and the Falls
      is a combination of a couple former routes and a bit of relocation too.

      Today there is nothing left downtown where once there was station and
      support yards. (I haven't been there in a couple of years; there was a
      convention center on part of the former site, now maybe a Casino.) As an
      aside an interesting facet of the Falls is the generation of power for the
      industries that once huddled along the chasms edge. To accomplish this
      tunnels were dug beneath the central city from above the falls to below to
      service first the individual industries and then the large tunnel for the
      power plant that collapsed some years ago. The tunnels are still there and
      today I believe have an impact on how and where the city builds.

      PKL

      >From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
      >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      >To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Digest Number 1803
      >Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:10:54 -0500
      >
      >Hi Paul,
      >
      >Here's a site with a ton of NYC files, scroll down and you will find NYC
      >timetables from as far back as the mid-teens:
      >
      >http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc.html
      >
      >Scroll down a bit more and you will find this 1954 NYC map that includes
      >the RW&O line:
      >
      >http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-map54.gif
      >
      >This is a nice historic map page that includes this 1883 New York map
      >that still has the line labeled RW&O. You'll need to select a zoom, and
      >then click on the map in the area of the railroad, but then you can
      >either zoom in more, or simply click on the map and follow the line to
      >where you want to go:
      >
      >http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?gmd:13:./temp/~ammem_7v16::
      >
      >Af for "Tower 65", I have a Conrail ETT from '78 that still shows the
      >remains of the RW&O line on the Buffalo map but it's only dots like it's
      >abandon. There is no reference in the ETT to this line, and no such
      >animal as tower in the area. I suspect Conrail refers to towers as
      >"CP"s or Control Points and if this is the case I can find CP 61 but no
      >CP 65. CP 61 is on a line between Buffalo station and Suspension Bridge
      >on what Conrail called the "Niagara Falls Secondary Track". It would
      >look like one of the other rail lines that formed Conrail had a parallel
      >line which Conrail calls the "Niagara Branch" and this is the line
      >Conrail chose over the Niagara Falls Secondary what looks like it would
      >have contained CP 65... this line is mentioned in a couple of other
      >schedules as connecting to them, just not listed in the ETT.
      >
      >Paul :-)
      >
      >paul larner wrote:
      >
      > > Location of tower 65. Today where the Amtrak trains come in from
      >Toronto
      > > they stop for customs just as they come off the bridge. At that point
      >can
      > > be seen the remnants ofteh RW&O line which went north to Lewiston and
      > > further along the lake shore. This point where the lines crossed was
      >the
      > > location of NYC tower 65 which seems to have controlled the junction.
      >For
      > > reference I use NYC employee timetable No. 7, Buffalo division.
      > >
      > > Paul
      >
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