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  • Leslie Vaughn
    Thanks so much. I will try this. Lesllie From: Kate Redford Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:02 PM To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FHCNET] Legacy
    Message 1 of 38 , Mar 31, 2010
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      Thanks so much. I will try this.

      Lesllie


      From: Kate Redford
      Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:02 PM
      To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [FHCNET] Legacy submissions



      I have been able to request legacy for some of mine that had only "unknown
      contributor plus a number sequence". Go to the Help Center in nFS and look
      at KD253faq0506 Also see ID Document 102884. It took about 48 hours for me
      to get a reply. I hope this works for you.

      ----Original Message-----
      From: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FHCNET@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      Leslie Vaughn
      Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:34 PM
      To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [FHCNET] Legacy submissions

      I am hoping someone can help me.

      I am going through my data base and comparing those that I show need
      ordinances to those on nFS. I see ordinances completed or in progress or
      reserved. Obviously I am checking for duplicates and merging or unmerging
      as appropriate.

      I have quite a few that show in progress on nFS. These most often have
      baptism/confirmation done. These initial ordinances are years old. If I
      can, I am contacting the contributor to see if they need help accomplishing
      the work. This has opened a wonderful dialog of sharing. Sometimes these
      older cases are a result of the name extraction program. I contact the help

      desk and within a week or so the individual is released and I can do the
      remaining ordinances.

      HOWEVER there are some that show in progress, the initial ordinance dates
      are 10 to 11 years old, the contributor is not identified except with a name

      and number. These are legacy contributions. When I click on the name/number

      I get a popup that says this was contributed to the A/F or PRF and I can
      declare myself as the the contributor. Obviously I am not the contributor.
      If I lied and declared that I am the contributor, I would get ALL the work
      this person has done and I don't want that. (either the lying or the
      tangled mess this would cause)

      Question: How can we or is there a way to get these ordinances done? All
      that I can see are American/Canadian/English names. The contributor is
      probably someone in one of those three countries and thus distance is
      probably not a huge factor in not getting the work done. My supposition for

      the work not being done are:
      1. The contributor died or is ill
      2. The contributor lost interest
      3. The contributor didn't know his/her responsibility is to see that ALL the

      ordinances are complete. ( I see a lot of this with my ward members)
      4. The work did get done, but the scanning wasn't working the day the work
      was done, thus it wasn't recorded. ( That happened to a few of mine)
      5. The cards are in a box under someone's bed, in a storage unit, in the
      attic. (I have one ward member who was given a stack of cards at least 6
      years ago by a relative who did the research and wants him to do the work
      and he put them in a shoebox and says when he is old he'll get around to it.

      He is in his 70s and has early Alzheimer's so I doubt it will ever get done)

      If there is nothing that can be done at this time, are the programmers
      working on something to help in the future.

      I'd hate to meet these folks in the hereafter and say to them: "I knew you
      and I knew you needed your ordinances, but my hands were tied."

      I know this issue must be prevalent. Are we just ignoring those poor souls
      who are waiting?

      Leslie

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    • Leslie Vaughn
      Thanks so much. I will try this. Lesllie From: Kate Redford Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:02 PM To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FHCNET] Legacy
      Message 38 of 38 , Mar 31, 2010
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        Thanks so much. I will try this.

        Lesllie


        From: Kate Redford
        Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:02 PM
        To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [FHCNET] Legacy submissions



        I have been able to request legacy for some of mine that had only "unknown
        contributor plus a number sequence". Go to the Help Center in nFS and look
        at KD253faq0506 Also see ID Document 102884. It took about 48 hours for me
        to get a reply. I hope this works for you.

        ----Original Message-----
        From: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FHCNET@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        Leslie Vaughn
        Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:34 PM
        To: FHCNET@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [FHCNET] Legacy submissions

        I am hoping someone can help me.

        I am going through my data base and comparing those that I show need
        ordinances to those on nFS. I see ordinances completed or in progress or
        reserved. Obviously I am checking for duplicates and merging or unmerging
        as appropriate.

        I have quite a few that show in progress on nFS. These most often have
        baptism/confirmation done. These initial ordinances are years old. If I
        can, I am contacting the contributor to see if they need help accomplishing
        the work. This has opened a wonderful dialog of sharing. Sometimes these
        older cases are a result of the name extraction program. I contact the help

        desk and within a week or so the individual is released and I can do the
        remaining ordinances.

        HOWEVER there are some that show in progress, the initial ordinance dates
        are 10 to 11 years old, the contributor is not identified except with a name

        and number. These are legacy contributions. When I click on the name/number

        I get a popup that says this was contributed to the A/F or PRF and I can
        declare myself as the the contributor. Obviously I am not the contributor.
        If I lied and declared that I am the contributor, I would get ALL the work
        this person has done and I don't want that. (either the lying or the
        tangled mess this would cause)

        Question: How can we or is there a way to get these ordinances done? All
        that I can see are American/Canadian/English names. The contributor is
        probably someone in one of those three countries and thus distance is
        probably not a huge factor in not getting the work done. My supposition for

        the work not being done are:
        1. The contributor died or is ill
        2. The contributor lost interest
        3. The contributor didn't know his/her responsibility is to see that ALL the

        ordinances are complete. ( I see a lot of this with my ward members)
        4. The work did get done, but the scanning wasn't working the day the work
        was done, thus it wasn't recorded. ( That happened to a few of mine)
        5. The cards are in a box under someone's bed, in a storage unit, in the
        attic. (I have one ward member who was given a stack of cards at least 6
        years ago by a relative who did the research and wants him to do the work
        and he put them in a shoebox and says when he is old he'll get around to it.

        He is in his 70s and has early Alzheimer's so I doubt it will ever get done)

        If there is nothing that can be done at this time, are the programmers
        working on something to help in the future.

        I'd hate to meet these folks in the hereafter and say to them: "I knew you
        and I knew you needed your ordinances, but my hands were tied."

        I know this issue must be prevalent. Are we just ignoring those poor souls
        who are waiting?

        Leslie

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