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Re: PRF submission still showing only 'received' six months later.

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  • Peggy LeBlanc
    ... Sorry to the group for my previous terse reply. My cursor hit send mid-reply instead of another button. Hello, I am the Product Specialist for Pedigree
    Message 1 of 24 , Jul 5 6:30 AM
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      --- In FHCNET@yahoogroups.com, "phyllisgalloway" <family55@...> wrote:
      >
      > I just had my branch president order the whole set of PRF for our FHC.
      > It cost alot, why would they not stop selling these if they are getting
      > ready to put them on the net on Family Search. I feel this just should
      > not have happened. Our branch is small and it took alot of money from
      > us to buy these. Can they be sent back and the money refunded.
      >
      > >When New Family Search is released, all the information that has been
      > >recorded on the previous PRF CDs will be included there.
      >
      Sorry to the group for my previous terse reply. My cursor hit send
      mid-reply instead of another button.


      Hello, I am the Product Specialist for Pedigree Resource File at
      Progeny Software. We process the data for the Church. I just read the
      digest on July 5th regarding all the PRF postings. Here are my comments:

      Re: PRF submission still showing only 'received' six months later.

      We are continuing to process data for Pedigree Resource File. Data
      is processed as quickly as possible and sometimes there are
      unavoidable technical delays. Also, since DVD 126 released, there are
      now 5 million persons per disk. Therefore it is naturally going to
      take longer to fill one. (There used to be one million names per CD
      ROM disk.)

      Re: Accessing PRF data via other programs or FamilySearch.org
      Access is limited to the vital statistics on a person. The notes and
      sources can sometimes be crucial. I have seen many occasions where
      the notes are very detailed and sources can be the same.

      I have a personal testimony of the value of the data on the disks that
      cannot be accessed online. I have a ggandmother, known to me but not
      to the submitter. The entire family group was on PRF except my
      grandmother. I did not have her parent's names. I searched the notes
      for her surname in my province. Always on the lookout for her surname
      in that general area, I spotted a few. This is the family group that
      I spoke about. In the notes for one of the sons was mention that he
      lived on his father's original homestead in Ohio, now named Simpson's
      Corner after his father, John Simpson. I did not know the place name
      had changed after the record I consulted.

      I used this personal example during a sacrament talk. When finished,
      an elderly gentleman who I knew quite well stopped me and said "Will
      Simpson? Of Simpson's Corner??" I said yes, and waited. He had an
      awestruck look on his face. "I knew him. I met him when I was a
      little boy about 5 years old. He was very old, and seemed a nice man.
      I didn't know he had a sister. I only met him once, he shook my
      hand." You could have knocked me over with a feather. Suddenly facts
      and figures fell away and an indescribable feeling overtook me.

      It never occurred to me before to ask him about a surname that was not
      related to him, even though my friend had grown up close by. I was so
      used to looking for the deceased that I never thought about the living
      memory. Armed with more clues, I was able to successfully continue
      my research. Only by finding her brother's note did this happen.
      Value in the notes? It was to me.

      Re: Will there be more PRF's?

      Yes. See above.

      Re: "...I do not know if it is related or not, but currently I have
      not been able to download a gedcom from the PRF files on the internet,
      as the choice has been removed. I would love to hear if others are
      having the same experience or if there is a work around...."

      Pedigree Resoure File can create GEDCOM files of an entire submission,
      or ancestors or descendants of the subject. Notes and sources are
      included.

      Re Refund available?

      Contact the distribution center and ask them what the policy is. See
      Gary Templeman's reply.

      I hope this is helpful to you.

      Sincerely,

      Peggy LeBlanc
      Product Specialist
      Progeny Software Inc.
    • T. Mason
      When the internal format of familysearch.com recently changed, earlier versions of PRFmagnet stopped picking up the gender. This was fixed in the new version
      Message 2 of 24 , Jul 10 8:53 PM
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        When the internal format of familysearch.com recently changed,
        earlier versions of PRFmagnet stopped picking up the gender. This
        was fixed in the new version 1.1.27. This would specifically mean
        that if you used a gedcom created by an older version of PRFmagnet
        with genders not being brought in, and imported that into PAF, PAF
        would find no gender and would then complain about wrong genders on
        the marriages.

        You can not download a gedcom file from PRF on FamilySearch. Data in
        FamilySearch can only be made into a gedcom using PRFmagnet. You can
        access PRF and download gedcom files within the PRF program if you
        buy the disks.

        There are several downsides to submitting to PRF. (1) Cost. (2) Data
        can not be updated - only a new submission can be made. (3) Address
        and URLs of submitters as shown in FamilySearch can not be changed.
        Only by new submissions can new addresses and URLs be modified.

        An alternative would be to submit to WorldConnect.Rootsweb.com . It
        is free and can be updated anytime.

        Terry Mason
        Clermont, FL

        --- In FHCNET@yahoogroups.com, Garth Gooch <ggooch_00@...> wrote:
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        > I thought that I might warn you about the experience I have had
        recently with the PRFmagnet program. The gedcom produced causes some
        real problems with a PAF file. For some reason it produces a
        marriage between an individual and himself in addition to his wife.
        When you then open PAF insight to merge the individuals, it will
        start changing the sex of individuals so that it can attempt to
        repair the problems encountered. Each time you begin PAF insight
        from then on it changes the sex of individuals trying to repair the
        problem. It caused me a lot of problems. I have tried it repeatedly
        and can reproduce the error, so I do not think that it is a problem
        that only my file produces. I have tried it using various families
        and then I tried it by only creating a temporary file, importing the
        gedcom and using PAF insight. I hope that the problem will soon be
        fixed, as it is a great help when it works correctly. You can
        download as many generations as is available and and their entire
        families. I do not know if it is related or not, but currently I
        have not been able to download a gedcom from the PRF files on the
        internet, as the choice has been removed. I would love to hear if
        others are having the same experience or if there is a work around.
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