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Re: [ExtensiveReading] Is it possible to get tenure and be promoted?

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  • Clive Lovelock
    Dear Stephen Here s my reply to your queries, as I m a faculty member. 1. I can only say for certain that two of us full-time faculty - one American and me
    Message 1 of 9 , Aug 31, 2003
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      Dear Stephen

      Here's my reply to your queries, as I'm a faculty member.

      1. I can only say for certain that two of us full-time faculty - one
      American and me (British) - are truly involved in second language
      education. I'm not sure about the other 9 profs in the English
      department, who are Japanese professors of English literature, used to
      lecturing with a very teacher-centred mindset and untrained in ELT. They
      are obliged to teach "English language" courses, because the demand for
      literature courses has almost dried up at our (small 4-year women's)
      university. Students want to "learn English for practical communication"
      and have recently rebelled against the dry approach of teaching it
      through grammar-translation of Eng. Lit.

      I suspect what most of my Japanese colleagues do is "kyoiku" - the
      traditional approach of university profs here - rather than "education"
      in the modern sense, though I've never seen any of them teach and most
      of them don't discuss what they do in class. "Kyoiku" is mistakenly
      translated in bilingual dictionaries as "education", but it's more like
      the old fashioned 19th, or early 20th century schooling.
      Sentence-by-sentence explication of reading passages (translated into
      Japanese by the teacher), rote-learning of grammar rules and vocab lists
      intended for deductive learning. You've probably hear about it from Beniko.

      I have persuaded at least a couple of the full-timers to teach ER more
      or less as recommended by many of us who contribute to the ER discussion
      list, but they have not been assigned to these classes this year.
      There's one part-timer who has been doing a good job with ER for three
      years now. In addition there are two more full-timers, who are new to ER
      this year, but their total silence on how they're teaching leads me to
      suspect that they aren't sticking to ER very closely - if at all. The
      Japanese profs are all teaching first year ER courses. I and two
      part-time foreigners teach the second year ER courses - all 3 with
      masters degrees in TESOL or Applied Linguistics. Similarly, first year
      writing is taught by Japanese Literature Profs, while 2nd year writing
      classes are taught by foreigners (half of whom have ELT training). All
      oral/aural classes are taught by foreigners. For 3rd and fourth year
      students, we have various skills courses (Written Expression,
      Presentation Skills, English through Drama) taught by foreigners.

      The total involved in ELT is 17:
      Literature Profs ELT Specialists
      (no training) (incl. *1, **some untrained) Full-time Part-t
      Full-t* Part-t**
      4 4 3 6

      2. No strict limitations on the kinds of publications recognized as
      counting for tenure / promotion as long as they are of an academic nature.

      3. Tezukayama Gakuin University.

      Hope this is helpful.

      Clive

      Stephen Krashen wrote:
      > Dear Colleagues,
      >
      > If you are university faculty, could you please tell me:
      >
      > 1. How many of your colleagues are involved in second language
      > education (including you)?
      > 2. Does your university require that publications be in SSCI (social
      > science citation index) journals in order to be counted for tenure
      > and promotion? Any other limitations?
      > 3. What is the name of your university?
      >
      > I am conducting a world-wide study (I hope) to see if it is
      > statistically possible for a significant number of scholars to get
      > tenure/be promoted, because of limited space in these few journals.
      >
      > I will distribute the results of the study when it is finished.
      >
      > Thanks
      >
      > Steve Krashen
      > (Emeritus professor)
      >
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    • Clive Lovelock
      PS No provision is made for publiation by part-timers. CL
      Message 2 of 9 , Aug 31, 2003
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        PS No provision is made for publiation by part-timers.

        CL

        Stephen Krashen wrote:
        > Dear Colleagues,
        >
        > If you are university faculty, could you please tell me:
        >
        > 1. How many of your colleagues are involved in second language
        > education (including you)?
        > 2. Does your university require that publications be in SSCI (social
        > science citation index) journals in order to be counted for tenure
        > and promotion? Any other limitations?
        > 3. What is the name of your university?
        >
        > I am conducting a world-wide study (I hope) to see if it is
        > statistically possible for a significant number of scholars to get
        > tenure/be promoted, because of limited space in these few journals.
        >
        > I will distribute the results of the study when it is finished.
        >
        > Thanks
        >
        > Steve Krashen
        > (Emeritus professor)
        >
        > Please pass this message along to others.
        >
        >
        > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
        > ExtensiveReading-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
        >
        >
        >
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        >
        >
        >
      • Jeremy Taylor
        The replies are still coming to the group... Doesn t anyone else think it has no connection with ER? Grrrrrrr. Jeremy Jeremy Taylor Freelance Writer, Teacher,
        Message 3 of 9 , Sep 1, 2003
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          The replies are still coming to the group... Doesn't anyone else think it has no connection with ER? Grrrrrrr.
          Jeremy
           
          Jeremy Taylor
          Freelance Writer, Teacher, Juggler
          http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jeremytaylor/
        • Clive Lovelock
          Jeremy s quite right. I just got back from England, jet-lagged and still catching up on sleep, dealing with a month s backlog of messages. So wasn t thinking
          Message 4 of 9 , Sep 1, 2003
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            Jeremy's quite right. I just got back from England, jet-lagged and
            still catching up on sleep, dealing with a month's backlog of messages.
            So wasn't thinking too clearly. I sent off my reply to Stephen before I
            read Jeremy's protest. Apologies to all.

            Clive


            Jeremy Taylor wrote:
            > The replies are still coming to the group... Doesn't anyone else think
            > it has no connection with ER? Grrrrrrr.
            > Jeremy
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