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  • jeffreymanley123
    In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there s a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was
    Message 1 of 7 , Mar 4, 2010
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      In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff
    • Robert Davis
      Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read Apparently
      Message 2 of 7 , Mar 4, 2010
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        Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

        Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

        --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@...> wrote:

        From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@...>
        Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
        To: Evelyn_Waugh@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

         

        In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff


      • Jeffrey Manley
        Thanks. Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title. To: Evelyn_Waugh@yahoogroups.com From: robertmurraydavis@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 4
        Message 3 of 7 , Mar 4, 2010
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          Thanks.  Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title.  
           

          To: Evelyn_Waugh@yahoogroups.com
          From: robertmurraydavis@...
          Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:46:25 -0800
          Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

           
          Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

          Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

          --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com> wrote:

          From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com>
          Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
          To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
          Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

           

          In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff





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        • Robert Davis
          And a self-reflexive paper at that. Who is going to admit to being Lord Copper? Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480)
          Message 4 of 7 , Mar 4, 2010
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            And a self-reflexive paper at that. Who is going to admit to being Lord Copper?

            Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

            --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Jeffrey Manley <manleyjm@...> wrote:

            From: Jeffrey Manley <manleyjm@...>
            Subject: RE: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
            To: "waughblog" <evelyn_waugh@yahoogroups.com>
            Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 1:07 PM

             

            Thanks.  Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title.  
             


            To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
            From: robertmurraydavis@ yahoo.com
            Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:46:25 -0800
            Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

             
            Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

            Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

            --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com> wrote:

            From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com>
            Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
            To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
            Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

             

            In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff





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          • Sally White
            Does anyone know the real-life model for Samgrass? A journalist? ________________________________ From: Jeffrey Manley To: waughblog
            Message 5 of 7 , Mar 4, 2010
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              Does anyone know the real-life model for Samgrass? A journalist?



              From: Jeffrey Manley <manleyjm@...>
              To: waughblog <evelyn_waugh@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 3:07:55 PM
              Subject: RE: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

               

              Thanks.  Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title.  
               


              To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
              From: robertmurraydavis@ yahoo.com
              Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:46:25 -0800
              Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

               
              Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

              Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

              --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com> wrote:

              From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com>
              Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
              To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
              Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

               

              In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff





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            • Jeffrey Manley
              Maurice Bowra, an Oxford don who never worked for a newspaper, was a major contributor to the character of Mr. Samgrass. But as with most of Waugh s
              Message 6 of 7 , Mar 5, 2010
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                Maurice Bowra, an Oxford don who never worked for a newspaper, was a major contributor to the character of Mr. Samgrass.  But as with most of Waugh's characters others contributed, as well as his own imagination.


                To: Evelyn_Waugh@yahoogroups.com
                From: lobstershift440@...
                Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:43:37 -0800
                Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

                 

                Does anyone know the real-life model for Samgrass? A journalist?



                From: Jeffrey Manley <manleyjm@msn. com>
                To: waughblog <evelyn_waugh@ yahoogroups. com>
                Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 3:07:55 PM
                Subject: RE: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

                 
                Thanks.  Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title.  
                 


                To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
                From: robertmurraydavis@ yahoo.com
                Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:46:25 -0800
                Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

                 
                Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

                Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

                --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com> wrote:

                From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com>
                Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
                To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
                Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

                 
                In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff






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              • Robert Davis
                See this link: http://www.shmoop.com/brideshead-revisited/mr-samgrass-of-all-souls.html It identifies the original, as many other sources do, as Maurice Bowra.
                Message 7 of 7 , Mar 5, 2010
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                  See this link: http://www.shmoop.com/brideshead-revisited/mr-samgrass-of-all-souls.html

                  It identifies the original, as many other sources do, as Maurice Bowra. But Waugh never admitted it, as far as I know.


                  Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

                  --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Sally White <lobstershift440@...> wrote:

                  From: Sally White <lobstershift440@...>
                  Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
                  To: Evelyn_Waugh@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:43 PM

                   

                  Does anyone know the real-life model for Samgrass? A journalist?



                  From: Jeffrey Manley <manleyjm@msn. com>
                  To: waughblog <evelyn_waugh@ yahoogroups. com>
                  Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 3:07:55 PM
                  Subject: RE: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

                   

                  Thanks.  Still a journalist but different paper and less specific re job title.  
                   


                  To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
                  From: robertmurraydavis@ yahoo.com
                  Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:46:25 -0800
                  Subject: Re: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass

                   
                  Proof copy, which was essentially the same as the limited edition, has a note that W had queried Peters about possible libel. Originally it read "Apparently he's lately been roped in among some thousand others to write 'The Londoner's Diary' in the Evening Standard." The note substitues "the gossip page" for "the Londoner's Diary" and "Bulletin" for "Evening Standard." The reading you cite was inserted.

                  Robert Murray Davis 9846 E. Minnesota Avenue, Sun Lakes, AZ 85248 (480) 802-2953

                  --- On Thu, 3/4/10, jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com> wrote:

                  From: jeffreymanley123 <manleyjm@msn. com>
                  Subject: [Evelyn_Waugh] Mr. Samgrass
                  To: Evelyn_Waugh@ yahoogroups. com
                  Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 8:41 AM

                   

                  In the Waugh Bibliography (Murray, Doyle ,et al.) there's a note on the limited first edition of BR (50 copies) that says in later editions Mr. Samgrass was given a diffeent occupation from the one he held at the Daily Beast on p. 233 of the trade edition. Does anyone know what his occupation was in the limited first edition? jeff





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