Re: An Interesting Lead At 8-9 Down
- Yeah, i think it's a pretty interesting debate, although I must
admit it probably won't result in any answers or conclusions.
At the end of the day, science or maths cannot disprove the
importance of intuition, instinct and feel. Those factors are not
easy to quantify, and that's probably the reason why
the "professors" of euchre don't like to admit their presence or
there relevance. They like to just sweep it away or refer to it
Well it dosen't have to be a science v instinct debate. I mean I am
not questioning the relevance of sound strategies which have been
proven time and time gain, I am just saying that there is a lot more
scope to euchre than just numbers. And a complete player is 1 that
can combine all aspects of the game together, and realizes that
there is more to the game than just the crads dealt, it is a game of
people as well. Im not for 1 moment saying that I'm that player,
just that I would like to be and I try to be.
Anyway, what I've learned from playing euchre is that although sound
strategies and principles are very important to a good player, some
of the greatest value can come from knowing and being aware of the
key moments in a game when those same principles actually do not
apply. Call it voodoo, call it what u want. I call it instinct,
and it runs through the veins of every good crad player.
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, Gerry Blue <gblue42@...> wrote:
> Well, not everyone. ;-)
> It's just so much fun to watch someone else argue the point, and
quite well I might add, that some of us are simply sitting on the
sidelines enjoying ourselves.
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: uka_coach <blaketurner192@...>
> To: EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:03:22 PM
> Subject: [EuchreScience] Re: An Interesting Lead At 8-9 Down
> I guess every1 (but us) here thinks of euchre as a "pure science",
and that's not surprising given the name of the group LOL.
- Yeah, i didnt explain exactly what every player held. However i did
state that after revisity the hand at gerry's euchre lab, that there
was only 1 play that resulted in a set, and even with that play, it
still hinged upon my LHO making a mistake.
Irrelevant...? if u say so? For me it is just another example of
why a defensive trump lead is often the best play when your opponent
orders a trump into his partner's hand. In this case 1st seat had
JT of trump, which made leading the trump a little trickier. I
agree with you that leading the right is not a good lead, but I
still maintain that I needed to lead a trump, so it had to be the
3 naked trump, well that's just my silly was of saying he had no
other strength in his hand.
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "Natty Bumppo" <borf@...>
> "uka_coach" <blaketurner192@> wrote:
> > The Guy who ordered, well he had the
> > left and the KQ of spades. He had no
> > offsuit aces, so he ordered with 3 naked
> > trump. My partner had 1 trump the Ace,
> > and the dealer also only had the 1 trump
> > which he picked up. Also the dealer did
> > not have a diamond . . . .
> But we did not learn any of this until now
> -- after at least 30 posts in the thread.
> And it's irrelevant. All hindsight. Still
> Whatever "three naked trump" means. . . .