It was nice to meet you too. And yes, not everyone who plays in
Clockwork Orange is a complete jerk. Some can actually play well, too.
You say you have a lot to learn, but I see you have already memorized
one of the most important rules listed in my book on page 37: Always
Blame Your Partner. ;)
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com
, "Duane McCormick" <revgorgo@...>
> Appreciate the notes, and nice to meet you at Clockwork Orange where
I usually hang around and lose a lot.
> I have much to learn, but sometimes it's not so much fun because of
the people. The people you saw me playing with today were good
sports, however and full of fun. Of course I lost again, but it was
NOT MY FAULT!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jjewels212
> To: EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:32 AM
> Subject: [EuchreScience] Re: On whining and Bagging
> Which room do you usually play in on Pogo? I've found that the best
> players, but also the biggest whiners and egos, play in Clockwork
> Orange. And yes, this vocal minority has made the word "baggers" into
> an epithet. I've been accused of bagging when I've set the maker
> holding only the R or guarded L. People don't like getting set when
> they call thin, so they blame the opponents for this terrible sin they
> call "bagging."
> I enjoy a good aggressive game of euchre, and will call or order thin
> from every seat except third. I believe many aggressive players make
> the mistake of ordering too thin from third seat rather than suffer
> the ignominious "bagger" laber. However, third seat is optimal for
> bagging for several reasons:
> 1. A good player will tend to pick up thin as dealer rather than lose
> the deal or give opps a chance to call. Here's your chance to set him.
> 2. In third seat, you have no control over the opening lead. The
> dealer, to whom you just gave a trump, gets to play after you. This is
> not a good position for you to be in.
> 3. Your partner may be sitting on a loner in the opposite color, or in
> next. Your partner passed first seat for a reason. Let him call
> 4. If you order third seat, you give the dealer a trump, a chance to
> better his hand by discarding, and the opportunity to play last. These
> are all to your disadvantage, so you should have a very strong hand if
> you expect to score. Otherwise, bag.
> There is a difference between strategic bagging and poor play. Poor
> players will pass a good chance for a point because they are afraid of
> being set. You can usually tell these players by their stats: they
> generally lose 50% or more of their games. Strategic bagging, on the
> other hand, is simply a weapon in your euchre arsenal. Used correctly,
> I believe it will net you more points than you will lose.
> So bag away, if it's appropriate! And don't let the whiners get