Re: On whining and Bagging
- Hi Rev,
It was nice to meet you too. And yes, not everyone who plays in
Clockwork Orange is a complete jerk. Some can actually play well, too.
You say you have a lot to learn, but I see you have already memorized
one of the most important rules listed in my book on page 37: Always
Blame Your Partner. ;)
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "Duane McCormick" <revgorgo@...>
>I usually hang around and lose a lot.
> Appreciate the notes, and nice to meet you at Clockwork Orange where
>the people. The people you saw me playing with today were good
> I have much to learn, but sometimes it's not so much fun because of
sports, however and full of fun. Of course I lost again, but it was
NOT MY FAULT!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jjewels212
> To: EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:32 AM
> Subject: [EuchreScience] Re: On whining and Bagging
> Which room do you usually play in on Pogo? I've found that the best
> players, but also the biggest whiners and egos, play in Clockwork
> Orange. And yes, this vocal minority has made the word "baggers" into
> an epithet. I've been accused of bagging when I've set the maker
> holding only the R or guarded L. People don't like getting set when
> they call thin, so they blame the opponents for this terrible sin they
> call "bagging."
> I enjoy a good aggressive game of euchre, and will call or order thin
> from every seat except third. I believe many aggressive players make
> the mistake of ordering too thin from third seat rather than suffer
> the ignominious "bagger" laber. However, third seat is optimal for
> bagging for several reasons:
> 1. A good player will tend to pick up thin as dealer rather than lose
> the deal or give opps a chance to call. Here's your chance to set him.
> 2. In third seat, you have no control over the opening lead. The
> dealer, to whom you just gave a trump, gets to play after you. This is
> not a good position for you to be in.
> 3. Your partner may be sitting on a loner in the opposite color, or in
> next. Your partner passed first seat for a reason. Let him call
> 4. If you order third seat, you give the dealer a trump, a chance to
> better his hand by discarding, and the opportunity to play last. These
> are all to your disadvantage, so you should have a very strong hand if
> you expect to score. Otherwise, bag.
> There is a difference between strategic bagging and poor play. Poor
> players will pass a good chance for a point because they are afraid of
> being set. You can usually tell these players by their stats: they
> generally lose 50% or more of their games. Strategic bagging, on the
> other hand, is simply a weapon in your euchre arsenal. Used correctly,
> I believe it will net you more points than you will lose.
> So bag away, if it's appropriate! And don't let the whiners get
- What? You mean I'm not allowed to blame the stupid cards?
jjewels212 <julisinchicago2@...> wrote:You say you have a lot to learn, but I see you have already memorized one of the most important rules listed in my book on page 37: Always Blame Your Partner. ;)
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- No Gerry, you are not. Tsk Tsk Tsk. You would know this if you had
read my book as closely as Duane has. Also on page 37: Never Blame the
You are, however, allowed to blame the opps for bagging, pausing, and
getting dealt idiot-proof cards. "My _________ could play those cards"
works well. Fill in the blank with your choice of "four-year-old,"
"pet gerbil," or "Stevie Wonder."
Hope this clarifies.
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, Gerry Blue <gblue42@...> wrote:
> What? You mean I'm not allowed to blame the stupid cards?
> jjewels212 <julisinchicago2@...> wrote:
> You say you have a lot to learn, but I see you have already
memorized one of the most important rules listed in my book on page
37: Always Blame Your Partner. ;)
> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.
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