Lead the aces
- Lead the aces, save the crap.
I've tried it both ways, and played with partners who play it both
ways. The ace lead is unequivocably better.
1. Don't make me guess where the aces are. Show them to me.
Otherwise, I will assume you don't have any and will trump you later
when the opponent leads.
2. I want to see your best card. Again, don't make me guess.
3. Your ace is more likely to draw an opponent's trump than another
lead. Drawing the opponents' trump without wasting ours is a good
4. If I ordered with both bowers and the nine, your queen lead could
force me to ruff with the nine. The obvious danger is that the dealer
will overruff. My valuable trump is wasted, and I will probably be
5. If your ace walks on the first trick, I am in much better position
to plan my play on the next trick. I can decide whether to ruff or
duck based on the cards in my hand.
6. If your ace walks, I know we are a third of the way to our point.
Again, please don't make me guess.
The only slight advantage I see to leading crap before an ace is the
ace has a slightly better chance of walking after pulling trump. In
actual play, I have observed that the disadvantages far outweigh this
Lead the ace dammit!
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "Perry Romanowski"
> rather be lucky than good.
> I'm with Sword, save the aces, lead the crap.
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:37 PM, pimped_her_out <torturedoutlaw@...>
> > --- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com <EuchreScience%
> > "Natty Bumppo" <borf@> wrote:theory to
> > > "I ALWAYS call when I have two
> > > trump," she explained.
> > I was gonna argue that maybe she had factored in sum metagame
> > considerations... but then that last paragrapgh just shot my
> > hell. LMAO... the amazing thing is how she managed to get a
> > respectable rating with such a strategy.
- Sorry, I didn't have an ace, either.
The queen of clubs was my highest card.
I had a three-card suit, but -- talk about
inviting the dealer to overtrump.
But what to lead when your partner orders
from third chair is not quite so simple as
"Lead trump, dammnit!" or "Lead the ace,
dammit!" either one. It depends on other
factors, such as (1) is the ace a singleton?
(2) is it "next" or is it "green"? (3) could
you use a march? (4) must you avoid a euchre?
As a column scheduled for release tomorrow
will point out (based on many more samples
and simulations than reported in message
"jjewels212" <julisinchicago2@...> wrote:
> Lead the aces, save the crap. . . . dammit! . . .
--- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "bananastew" <bookcasedust@...> wrote:
> --- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" chrisco311@ wrote:
> > --- In EuchreScience@yahoogroups.com, "Natty Bumppo" borf@ wrote:
> sorry to hear that. But is it good to lead trump or not?
> When partner makes trump and you have the first lead, lead trump, even
> if you only have one!
> If you don't have trump, lead an ace!
Correction >> lead a singleton ace. (if you have)
> If you don't have an ace, lead the Qc or some other crap.
Correction >> a singleton ace
> If you win the 1st trick, don't lead trump 2nd trick.
> There, you have my policy. It works well for me. :)