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The online historical discussion forum devoted to the Southern Pacific between 1861 and 1996.  SP’s various subsidiaries are also on-topic including the St. Louis Southwestern (“SSW” or “Cotton Belt); Northwestern Pacific (NWP); Texas & New Orleans (T&NO), Pacific Electric (PE); Visalia Electric (VE); Pacific Fruit Express Company (PFE – a partnership with Union Pacific until dissolved in 1978); and Evergreen Freight Car Company.
Topics pertaining to the Espee and/or scale modeling of its equipment, operations, practices, and history are relevant provided they relate to the period prior to September 1996, when SP was purchased by Union Pacific Corporation and ceased existence as a separate operating entity.
Rio Grande Industries, aka "Denver & Rio Grande Western", purchased the Southern Pacific in 1988, retaining SP's name for its "new" corporate identity. Discussion of the Rio Grande as it relates to the SP between 1988 and 1996 is therefore on-topic for this list.

Discussion of post September 1996 operations are Union Pacific topics not relevant to this list and instead found on the Espee Forever or Union Pacific forums:


For Sale announcements are allowed on Fridays only.  These should be SP in nature or at least include Espee-related items.

List rules are simple: Sign all messages with your full name; no posting SPAM, jokes or virus warnings; no religious or political comments/discussion; treat people with respect; no attachments, they're automatically stripped. New member postings are initially moderated (your first message).

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