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Re: [EndeweardeTailor] Re: Bodice musings

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    Nice pics on that link..   To give Clare an opinion if she s still waffling on what to do with the brocade... It seems that in period garments the fabric
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 31, 2008
      Nice pics on that link..
      To give Clare an opinion if she's still waffling on what to do with the brocade...
      It seems that in period garments the fabric squares on the bottom of the bodice are attached individually. The scale I've most often seen in pictures is about the size of your palm or a bit more. In mens garments the period examples I've seen sometimes overlap
      so if the finished bodice bottom tabs touch a bit or overlap it would likely be ok.
      The bottom tabs on the bodice do not have to be a uniform size all around - it is ok
      if the ones in front are a bit longer to give a nice finished front point with other tabs along the sides or back decreasing by at least one size (I recall seeing only about two sizes used).  
      You can look at www.margospatterns.com at the Elizabethan Ladies Wardrobe. Click on the picture and then click on the sketches of the individual pattern pieces to see how she set up her finished gowns. Those are all individual pieces for bodice skirting and shoulder "wings" (epaulets). If you have a chemise with puffy sleeves you can pull through and puff it
      up through the space between the shoulder fabric strips (or pin in some puffed up inserts in same fabric as chemise or contrasting color). 
      I have this pattern and will be getting it out in a day or so once I clear some working space for it and the new hoop skirt. If you don't need the info by Jan 10th winter feast I can take
      a look at her instructions and send you relevant info for the bodice portion. The designer sends a small unbound book of info along with the pattern pieces.
      I know that sometimes women were sometimes pinned into their gowns via side closures versus being laced in (or I wonder if they didn't both lace and pin you into some garments). If you have a friend who can help you dress and feel adventurous you can usually order small sets of brass straight pins suitable for pinning you into clothing for about $10 per package (maybe 6-8 pins or more in the set). I know Historic Enterprises carries them as does the Ren Store.  Side lacing might be easier to tweak and adjust if you have to dress yourself rather than back lacing.
      Looking forward to hearing what you decide ....
      PS Congrats on your name and device passing!

      --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Rachel Case <knittyprincess@...> wrote:
      From: Rachel Case <knittyprincess@...>
      Subject: [EndeweardeTailor] Re: Bodice musings
      To: EndeweardeTailor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 9:45 AM

      Hi there--I found this online:
      http://www.stimpzil lasumptuarylaw. com/TapestrySilk Gown.html
      Don't know if it is perfectly "period", but it's got good pics.

      > Hi all,
      > I'm in the creative mood and got out a piece of brocade to make a
      > bodice. My pattern leaves a lot of extra fabric, but not enough to
      > line the bodice. I have another fabric for this, but I got to
      > thinking about how to use that extra brocade... I have enough to add
      > tabs to the bottom and sleeves, but I've never done this before, so I
      > have questions.
      > Should I cut them as part of the main pattern or add them
      > individually? Are there any rules about size or number of tabs? I
      > was thinking of rectangles, but should the bottom edge slant with the
      > bodice? Same question for the sleeves. If I make this bugger this
      > fancy, am I obligated to lace it up the back? Does anyone have quick
      > access to photos of bodices with tabs?
      > Thanks,
      > Clare

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