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  • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
    Me neither brother. I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3 commitments for an LED spot build.... GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)
    Message 1 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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      Me neither brother.
      I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
      commitments for an LED spot build....

      GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

      ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

      These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
      Power supply would be additional.
      Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
      The more you make the less it costs overall.

      Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
      demo and coffee.


      I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
      I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
      version.


      I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
      Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
      highest number of LEDs output possible.
      Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
      more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

      I need to price the tubing yet.
      If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
      foot these days.
      Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
      (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.


      You said you had mini brackets yes?
      Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

      OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!





      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@...]
      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
      To: csminion@...
      Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

      I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
      white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
      I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
      participates at all.
       
      Brian Warner
      Evilusions LLC
      440-655-5796
      www.evilusions.com


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@...>
      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
      Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

      Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
      bleh!
      Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
      out some possible causes.
      What kind of stock of leds you got?
      I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
      can't recall the rest.

      Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?
    • Brian Warner
      I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocity.com/html/clear_hole_brackets.html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle that I could
      Message 2 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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        I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocity.com/html/clear_hole_brackets.html%c2%a0, plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.
         
        For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.
         
        For hardware  I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.
         
        I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for anything so no big loss.
         
        For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700 resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.
         
        For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.
         
        I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
         Brian Warner
        Evilusions LLC
        440-655-5796
        www.evilusions.com



        ----- Original Message ----
        From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@...>; EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
        Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@...>
        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
        Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


        Me neither brother.
        I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
        commitments for an LED spot build....

        GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

        ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

        These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
        Power supply would be additional.
        Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
        The more you make the less it costs overall.

        Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
        demo and coffee.

        I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
        I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
        version.

        I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
        Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
        highest number of LEDs output possible.
        Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
        more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

        I need to price the tubing yet.
        If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
        foot these days.
        Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
        (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

        You said you had mini brackets yes?
        Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

        OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@evilusions. com]
        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
        To: csminion@minionsweb .com
        Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

        I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
        white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
        I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
        participates at all.
         
        Brian Warner
        Evilusions LLC
        440-655-5796
        www.evilusions. com

        ----- Original Message ----
        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe b.com" <csminion@minionsweb .com>
        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
        Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

        Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
        bleh!
        Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
        out some possible causes.
        What kind of stock of leds you got?
        I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
        can't recall the rest.

        Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
        15 will only go so far - figure about 3 per spot that is 60 with NO scrap/loss I have tons of 1/4 scrap copper that will work too. For speed I suggest a
        Message 3 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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          15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
          scrap/loss
          I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

          For speed I suggest a grinder.
          For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
          cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
          so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
          the grinder to clean the outside.
          It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

          I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
          If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
          mechanical connection.

          You have a sand blaster at the shop?

          Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
          cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
          I will bring some of those too.
          I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

          Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
          power supply than 12v.
          I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
          to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

          I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
          orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

          At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
          end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
          Me - I go for molex connections personally.....

          _____

          From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of Brian Warner
          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
          To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



          I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
          <http://www.servocity.com/html/clear_hole_brackets.html>
          y.com/html/clear_hole_brackets.html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle
          that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

          For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

          For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

          I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
          piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
          anything so no big loss.

          For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
          resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
          I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

          For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

          I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
          speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
          recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
          Brian Warner
          Evilusions LLC
          440-655-5796
          www.evilusions.com

          ----- Original Message ----
          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
          <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
          <mailto:gadget%40evilusions.com> com>; EerieHaunts@
          <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
          Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar%40yahoo.com> com>
          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
          Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

          Me neither brother.
          I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
          commitments for an LED spot build....

          GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

          ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

          These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
          Power supply would be additional.
          Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
          The more you make the less it costs overall.

          Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
          demo and coffee.

          I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
          I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
          version.

          I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
          Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
          highest number of LEDs output possible.
          Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
          more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

          I need to price the tubing yet.
          If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
          foot these days.
          Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
          (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

          You said you had mini brackets yes?
          Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

          OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@evilusions. com]
          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
          To: csminion@minionsweb .com
          Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

          I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
          white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
          I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
          participates at all.

          Brian Warner
          Evilusions LLC
          440-655-5796
          www.evilusions. com

          ----- Original Message ----
          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe b.com" <csminion@minionsweb .com>
          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
          Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

          Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
          bleh!
          Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
          out some possible causes.
          What kind of stock of leds you got?
          I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
          can't recall the rest.

          Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        • Brian Warner
          No sandblaster. Sorry.  Brian Warner Evilusions LLC 440-655-5796 www.evilusions.com ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com To:
          Message 4 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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            No sandblaster. Sorry.
             Brian Warner
            Evilusions LLC
            440-655-5796
            www.evilusions.com



            ----- Original Message ----
            From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
            To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


            15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
            scrap/loss
            I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

            For speed I suggest a grinder.
            For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
            cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
            so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
            the grinder to clean the outside.
            It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

            I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
            If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
            mechanical connection.

            You have a sand blaster at the shop?

            Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
            cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
            I will bring some of those too.
            I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

            Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
            power supply than 12v.
            I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
            to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

            I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
            orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

            At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
            end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
            Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

            _____

            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
            Behalf Of Brian Warner
            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

            I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
            <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
            y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle
            that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

            For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

            For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

            I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
            piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
            anything so no big loss.

            For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
            resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
            I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

            For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

            I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
            speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
            recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
            Brian Warner
            Evilusions LLC
            440-655-5796
            www.evilusions. com

            ----- Original Message ----
            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
            <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
            <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
            Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
            Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

            Me neither brother.
            I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
            commitments for an LED spot build....

            GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

            ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

            These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
            Power supply would be additional.
            Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
            The more you make the less it costs overall.

            Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
            demo and coffee.

            I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
            I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
            version.

            I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
            Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
            highest number of LEDs output possible.
            Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
            more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

            I need to price the tubing yet.
            If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
            foot these days.
            Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
            (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

            You said you had mini brackets yes?
            Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

            OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
            To: csminion@minionsweb .com
            Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

            I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
            white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
            I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
            participates at all.

            Brian Warner
            Evilusions LLC
            440-655-5796
            www.evilusions. com

            ----- Original Message ----
            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
            Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

            Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
            bleh!
            Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
            out some possible causes.
            What kind of stock of leds you got?
            I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
            can't recall the rest.

            Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • Brian Warner
            I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes ago.  Brian
            Message 5 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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              I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes ago.
               Brian Warner
              Evilusions LLC
              440-655-5796
              www.evilusions.com



              ----- Original Message ----
              From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
              To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


              15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
              scrap/loss
              I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

              For speed I suggest a grinder.
              For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
              cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
              so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
              the grinder to clean the outside.
              It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

              I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
              If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
              mechanical connection.

              You have a sand blaster at the shop?

              Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
              cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
              I will bring some of those too.
              I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

              Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
              power supply than 12v.
              I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
              to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

              I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
              orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

              At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
              end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
              Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

              _____

              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
              Behalf Of Brian Warner
              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

              I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
              <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
              y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle
              that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

              For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

              For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

              I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
              piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
              anything so no big loss.

              For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
              resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
              I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

              For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

              I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
              speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
              recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
              Brian Warner
              Evilusions LLC
              440-655-5796
              www.evilusions. com

              ----- Original Message ----
              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
              <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
              <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
              Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
              Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

              Me neither brother.
              I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
              commitments for an LED spot build....

              GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

              ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

              These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
              Power supply would be additional.
              Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
              The more you make the less it costs overall.

              Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
              demo and coffee.

              I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
              I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
              version.

              I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
              Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
              highest number of LEDs output possible.
              Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
              more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

              I need to price the tubing yet.
              If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
              foot these days.
              Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
              (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

              You said you had mini brackets yes?
              Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

              OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

              -----Original Message-----
              From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
              To: csminion@minionsweb .com
              Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

              I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
              white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
              I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
              participates at all.

              Brian Warner
              Evilusions LLC
              440-655-5796
              www.evilusions. com

              ----- Original Message ----
              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
              Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

              Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
              bleh!
              Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
              out some possible causes.
              What kind of stock of leds you got?
              I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
              can't recall the rest.

              Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

              [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

              [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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            • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
              Sounds like overkill _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Warner Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27
              Message 6 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                Sounds like overkill

                _____

                From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                Behalf Of Brian Warner
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM
                To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling
                tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes
                ago.
                Brian Warner
                Evilusions LLC
                440-655-5796
                www.evilusions.com

                ----- Original Message ----
                From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
                <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                scrap/loss
                I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                For speed I suggest a grinder.
                For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                the grinder to clean the outside.
                It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                mechanical connection.

                You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                I will bring some of those too.
                I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                power supply than 12v.
                I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                _____

                From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                On
                Behalf Of Brian Warner
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                angle
                that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                anything so no big loss.

                For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                Brian Warner
                Evilusions LLC
                440-655-5796
                www.evilusions. com

                ----- Original Message ----
                From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                Me neither brother.
                I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                commitments for an LED spot build....

                GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                Power supply would be additional.
                Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                The more you make the less it costs overall.

                Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                demo and coffee.

                I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                version.

                I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                highest number of LEDs output possible.
                Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                I need to price the tubing yet.
                If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                foot these days.
                Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                You said you had mini brackets yes?
                Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                participates at all.

                Brian Warner
                Evilusions LLC
                440-655-5796
                www.evilusions. com

                ----- Original Message ----
                From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                bleh!
                Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                out some possible causes.
                What kind of stock of leds you got?
                I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                can't recall the rest.

                Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                HAHA! I have something you don t nah nah nah nah nah nah _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Warner
                Message 7 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                  HAHA! I have something you don't
                  nah nah nah nah nah nah

                  _____

                  From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                  Behalf Of Brian Warner
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:26 AM
                  To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                  No sandblaster. Sorry.
                  Brian Warner
                  Evilusions LLC
                  440-655-5796
                  www.evilusions.com

                  ----- Original Message ----
                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
                  <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                  To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                  15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                  scrap/loss
                  I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                  For speed I suggest a grinder.
                  For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                  cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                  so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                  the grinder to clean the outside.
                  It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                  I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                  If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                  mechanical connection.

                  You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                  Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                  cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                  I will bring some of those too.
                  I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                  Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                  power supply than 12v.
                  I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                  to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                  I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                  orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                  At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                  end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                  Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                  _____

                  From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                  On
                  Behalf Of Brian Warner
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                  To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                  I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                  <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                  y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                  angle
                  that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                  For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                  For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                  I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                  piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                  anything so no big loss.

                  For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                  resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                  I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                  For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                  I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                  speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                  recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                  Brian Warner
                  Evilusions LLC
                  440-655-5796
                  www.evilusions. com

                  ----- Original Message ----
                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                  <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                  To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                  <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                  <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                  Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                  Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                  Me neither brother.
                  I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                  commitments for an LED spot build....

                  GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                  ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                  These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                  Power supply would be additional.
                  Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                  The more you make the less it costs overall.

                  Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                  demo and coffee.

                  I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                  I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                  version.

                  I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                  Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                  highest number of LEDs output possible.
                  Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                  more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                  I need to price the tubing yet.
                  If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                  foot these days.
                  Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                  (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                  You said you had mini brackets yes?
                  Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                  OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                  To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                  Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                  I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                  white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                  I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                  participates at all.

                  Brian Warner
                  Evilusions LLC
                  440-655-5796
                  www.evilusions. com

                  ----- Original Message ----
                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                  To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                  Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                  Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                  bleh!
                  Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                  out some possible causes.
                  What kind of stock of leds you got?
                  I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                  can't recall the rest.

                  Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                • Brian Warner
                  I am the poster boy for overkill!  Brian Warner Evilusions LLC 440-655-5796 www.evilusions.com ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                  Message 8 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                    I am the poster boy for overkill!
                     Brian Warner
                    Evilusions LLC
                    440-655-5796
                    www.evilusions.com



                    ----- Original Message ----
                    From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
                    To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30:34 AM
                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


                    Sounds like overkill

                    _____

                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
                    Behalf Of Brian Warner
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM
                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                    Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                    I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling
                    tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes
                    ago.
                    Brian Warner
                    Evilusions LLC
                    440-655-5796
                    www.evilusions. com

                    ----- Original Message ----
                    From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                    To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                    15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                    scrap/loss
                    I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                    For speed I suggest a grinder.
                    For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                    cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                    so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                    the grinder to clean the outside.
                    It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                    I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                    If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                    mechanical connection.

                    You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                    Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                    cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                    I will bring some of those too.
                    I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                    Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                    power supply than 12v.
                    I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                    to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                    I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                    orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                    At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                    end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                    Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                    _____

                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                    On
                    Behalf Of Brian Warner
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                    Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                    I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                    <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                    y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                    angle
                    that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                    For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                    For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                    I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                    piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                    anything so no big loss.

                    For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                    resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                    I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                    For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                    I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                    speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                    recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                    Brian Warner
                    Evilusions LLC
                    440-655-5796
                    www.evilusions. com

                    ----- Original Message ----
                    From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                    <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                    <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                    Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                    Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                    Me neither brother.
                    I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                    commitments for an LED spot build....

                    GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                    ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                    These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                    Power supply would be additional.
                    Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                    The more you make the less it costs overall.

                    Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                    demo and coffee.

                    I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                    I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                    version.

                    I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                    Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                    highest number of LEDs output possible.
                    Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                    more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                    I need to price the tubing yet.
                    If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                    foot these days.
                    Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                    (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                    You said you had mini brackets yes?
                    Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                    OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                    To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                    Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                    I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                    white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                    I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                    participates at all.

                    Brian Warner
                    Evilusions LLC
                    440-655-5796
                    www.evilusions. com

                    ----- Original Message ----
                    From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                    Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                    Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                    bleh!
                    Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                    out some possible causes.
                    What kind of stock of leds you got?
                    I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                    can't recall the rest.

                    Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                  • Brian Warner
                    I will go pick one of for harbor freight tonight just because you said that.  Brian Warner Evilusions LLC 440-655-5796 www.evilusions.com ... From:
                    Message 9 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                      I will go pick one of for harbor freight tonight just because you said that.

                       Brian Warner
                      Evilusions LLC
                      440-655-5796
                      www.evilusions.com



                      ----- Original Message ----
                      From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
                      To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:31:32 AM
                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


                      HAHA! I have something you don't
                      nah nah nah nah nah nah

                      _____

                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
                      Behalf Of Brian Warner
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:26 AM
                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                      Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                      No sandblaster. Sorry.
                      Brian Warner
                      Evilusions LLC
                      440-655-5796
                      www.evilusions. com

                      ----- Original Message ----
                      From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                      <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                      15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                      scrap/loss
                      I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                      For speed I suggest a grinder.
                      For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                      cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                      so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                      the grinder to clean the outside.
                      It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                      I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                      If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                      mechanical connection.

                      You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                      Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                      cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                      I will bring some of those too.
                      I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                      Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                      power supply than 12v.
                      I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                      to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                      I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                      orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                      At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                      end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                      Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                      _____

                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                      On
                      Behalf Of Brian Warner
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                      Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                      I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                      <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                      y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                      angle
                      that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                      For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                      For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                      I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                      piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                      anything so no big loss.

                      For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                      resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                      I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                      For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                      I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                      speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                      recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                      Brian Warner
                      Evilusions LLC
                      440-655-5796
                      www.evilusions. com

                      ----- Original Message ----
                      From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                      <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                      <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                      <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                      Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                      Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                      Me neither brother.
                      I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                      commitments for an LED spot build....

                      GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                      ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                      These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                      Power supply would be additional.
                      Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                      The more you make the less it costs overall.

                      Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                      demo and coffee.

                      I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                      I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                      version.

                      I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                      Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                      highest number of LEDs output possible.
                      Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                      more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                      I need to price the tubing yet.
                      If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                      foot these days.
                      Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                      (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                      You said you had mini brackets yes?
                      Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                      OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                      To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                      Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                      I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                      white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                      I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                      participates at all.

                      Brian Warner
                      Evilusions LLC
                      440-655-5796
                      www.evilusions. com

                      ----- Original Message ----
                      From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                      Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                      Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                      bleh!
                      Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                      out some possible causes.
                      What kind of stock of leds you got?
                      I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                      can't recall the rest.

                      Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                    • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                      poster boys have hair..... that was way to easy.... take the loaded gun away from me! _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                      Message 10 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                        poster boys have hair.....
                        that was way to easy....
                        take the loaded gun away from me!

                        _____

                        From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                        Behalf Of Brian Warner
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:32 AM
                        To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                        I am the poster boy for overkill!
                        Brian Warner
                        Evilusions LLC
                        440-655-5796
                        www.evilusions.com

                        ----- Original Message ----
                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
                        <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30:34 AM
                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                        Sounds like overkill

                        _____

                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                        On
                        Behalf Of Brian Warner
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM
                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                        Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                        I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling
                        tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes
                        ago.
                        Brian Warner
                        Evilusions LLC
                        440-655-5796
                        www.evilusions. com

                        ----- Original Message ----
                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                        15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                        scrap/loss
                        I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                        For speed I suggest a grinder.
                        For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                        cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                        so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                        the grinder to clean the outside.
                        It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                        I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                        If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                        mechanical connection.

                        You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                        Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                        cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                        I will bring some of those too.
                        I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                        Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                        power supply than 12v.
                        I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                        to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                        I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                        orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                        At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                        end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                        Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                        _____

                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                        On
                        Behalf Of Brian Warner
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                        Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                        I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                        <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                        y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                        angle
                        that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                        For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                        For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                        I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                        piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                        anything so no big loss.

                        For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                        resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                        I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                        For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                        I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                        speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                        recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                        Brian Warner
                        Evilusions LLC
                        440-655-5796
                        www.evilusions. com

                        ----- Original Message ----
                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                        <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                        <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                        Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                        Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                        Me neither brother.
                        I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                        commitments for an LED spot build....

                        GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                        ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                        These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                        Power supply would be additional.
                        Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                        The more you make the less it costs overall.

                        Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                        demo and coffee.

                        I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                        I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                        version.

                        I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                        Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                        highest number of LEDs output possible.
                        Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                        more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                        I need to price the tubing yet.
                        If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                        foot these days.
                        Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                        (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                        You said you had mini brackets yes?
                        Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                        OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                        To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                        Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                        I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                        white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                        I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                        participates at all.

                        Brian Warner
                        Evilusions LLC
                        440-655-5796
                        www.evilusions. com

                        ----- Original Message ----
                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                        Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                        Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                        bleh!
                        Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                        out some possible causes.
                        What kind of stock of leds you got?
                        I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                        can't recall the rest.

                        Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                      • Brian Warner
                        Thanks. Just make fun of the balding 27 year old. Geez.  Brian Warner Evilusions LLC 440-655-5796 www.evilusions.com ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                        Message 11 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                          Thanks. Just make fun of the balding 27 year old. Geez.

                           Brian Warner
                          Evilusions LLC
                          440-655-5796
                          www.evilusions.com



                          ----- Original Message ----
                          From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
                          To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:47:09 AM
                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


                          poster boys have hair.....
                          that was way to easy....
                          take the loaded gun away from me!

                          _____

                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
                          Behalf Of Brian Warner
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:32 AM
                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          I am the poster boy for overkill!
                          Brian Warner
                          Evilusions LLC
                          440-655-5796
                          www.evilusions. com

                          ----- Original Message ----
                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30:34 AM
                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          Sounds like overkill

                          _____

                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                          On
                          Behalf Of Brian Warner
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM
                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling
                          tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes
                          ago.
                          Brian Warner
                          Evilusions LLC
                          440-655-5796
                          www.evilusions. com

                          ----- Original Message ----
                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                          scrap/loss
                          I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                          For speed I suggest a grinder.
                          For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                          cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                          so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                          the grinder to clean the outside.
                          It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                          I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                          If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                          mechanical connection.

                          You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                          Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                          cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                          I will bring some of those too.
                          I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                          Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                          power supply than 12v.
                          I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                          to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                          I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                          orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                          At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                          end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                          Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                          _____

                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                          On
                          Behalf Of Brian Warner
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                          <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                          y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                          angle
                          that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                          For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                          For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                          I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                          piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                          anything so no big loss.

                          For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                          resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                          I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                          For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                          I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                          speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                          recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                          Brian Warner
                          Evilusions LLC
                          440-655-5796
                          www.evilusions. com

                          ----- Original Message ----
                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                          <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                          <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                          Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                          Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                          Me neither brother.
                          I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                          commitments for an LED spot build....

                          GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                          ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                          These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                          Power supply would be additional.
                          Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                          The more you make the less it costs overall.

                          Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                          demo and coffee.

                          I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                          I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                          version.

                          I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                          Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                          highest number of LEDs output possible.
                          Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                          more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                          I need to price the tubing yet.
                          If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                          foot these days.
                          Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                          (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                          You said you had mini brackets yes?
                          Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                          OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                          To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                          Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                          I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                          white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                          I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                          participates at all.

                          Brian Warner
                          Evilusions LLC
                          440-655-5796
                          www.evilusions. com

                          ----- Original Message ----
                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                          Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                          Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                          bleh!
                          Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                          out some possible causes.
                          What kind of stock of leds you got?
                          I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                          can't recall the rest.

                          Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                        • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                          shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Warner Sent: Thursday,
                          Message 12 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                            shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade

                            _____

                            From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                            Behalf Of Brian Warner
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:15 PM
                            To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                            Thanks. Just make fun of the balding 27 year old. Geez.

                            Brian Warner
                            Evilusions LLC
                            440-655-5796
                            www.evilusions.com

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
                            <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:47:09 AM
                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            poster boys have hair.....
                            that was way to easy....
                            take the loaded gun away from me!

                            _____

                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                            On
                            Behalf Of Brian Warner
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:32 AM
                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            I am the poster boy for overkill!
                            Brian Warner
                            Evilusions LLC
                            440-655-5796
                            www.evilusions. com

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30:34 AM
                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            Sounds like overkill

                            _____

                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                            On
                            Behalf Of Brian Warner
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM
                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling
                            tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes
                            ago.
                            Brian Warner
                            Evilusions LLC
                            440-655-5796
                            www.evilusions. com

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM
                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO
                            scrap/loss
                            I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                            For speed I suggest a grinder.
                            For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the
                            cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.
                            so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and
                            the grinder to clean the outside.
                            It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                            I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......
                            If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice
                            mechanical connection.

                            You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                            Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be
                            cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.
                            I will bring some of those too.
                            I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                            Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v
                            power supply than 12v.
                            I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend
                            to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                            I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire
                            orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                            At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the
                            end for folks to determine their own power hook up.
                            Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                            _____

                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                            On
                            Behalf Of Brian Warner
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM
                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit
                            <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>
                            y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                            angle
                            that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                            For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                            For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                            I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a
                            piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for
                            anything so no big loss.

                            For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700
                            resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know
                            I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                            For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                            I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of
                            speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you
                            recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.
                            Brian Warner
                            Evilusions LLC
                            440-655-5796
                            www.evilusions. com

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"
                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                            <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@
                            <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                            Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM
                            Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                            Me neither brother.
                            I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                            commitments for an LED spot build....

                            GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                            ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                            These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                            Power supply would be additional.
                            Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                            The more you make the less it costs overall.

                            Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                            demo and coffee.

                            I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                            I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                            version.

                            I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                            Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                            highest number of LEDs output possible.
                            Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                            more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                            I need to price the tubing yet.
                            If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                            foot these days.
                            Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                            (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                            You said you had mini brackets yes?
                            Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                            OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                            To: csminion@minionsweb .com
                            Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                            I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                            white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                            I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                            participates at all.

                            Brian Warner
                            Evilusions LLC
                            440-655-5796
                            www.evilusions. com

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>
                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>
                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                            Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                            Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                            bleh!
                            Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                            out some possible causes.
                            What kind of stock of leds you got?
                            I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                            can't recall the rest.

                            Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                          • Brian Harchar
                            naww more like a small nuclear warhead. ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19 To:
                            Message 13 of 28 , Jul 10, 2008
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                              naww more like a small nuclear warhead.



                              --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@... <csminion@...> wrote:
                              From: GoryCorey@... <csminion@...>
                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                              To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 1:27 PM











                              shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade



                              _____



                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                              Behalf Of Brian Warner

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:15 PM

                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              Thanks. Just make fun of the balding 27 year old. Geez.



                              Brian Warner

                              Evilusions LLC

                              440-655-5796

                              www.evilusions. com



                              ----- Original Message ----

                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                              To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:47:09 AM

                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              poster boys have hair.....

                              that was way to easy....

                              take the loaded gun away from me!



                              _____



                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                              On

                              Behalf Of Brian Warner

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:32 AM

                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              I am the poster boy for overkill!

                              Brian Warner

                              Evilusions LLC

                              440-655-5796

                              www.evilusions. com



                              ----- Original Message ----

                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                              To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:30:34 AM

                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              Sounds like overkill



                              _____



                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                              On

                              Behalf Of Brian Warner

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:27 AM

                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              I could cut all the tubes off in the lathe!!! I am picking up tooling

                              tonight, and I just got my phase converter with the ups about 20 minutes

                              ago.

                              Brian Warner

                              Evilusions LLC

                              440-655-5796

                              www.evilusions. com



                              ----- Original Message ----

                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                              To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:18 AM

                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                              scrap/loss

                              I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                              For speed I suggest a grinder.

                              For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                              cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                              so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                              the grinder to clean the outside.

                              It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                              I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                              If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                              mechanical connection.



                              You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                              Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                              cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                              I will bring some of those too.

                              I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                              Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                              power supply than 12v.

                              I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                              to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                              I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                              orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                              At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                              end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                              Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                              _____



                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                              On

                              Behalf Of Brian Warner

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                              <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                              y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                              angle

                              that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                              For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                              For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                              I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                              piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                              anything so no big loss.



                              For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                              resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                              I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                              For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                              I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                              speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                              recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                              Brian Warner

                              Evilusions LLC

                              440-655-5796

                              www.evilusions. com



                              ----- Original Message ----

                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                              <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                              <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                              Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                              Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                              Me neither brother.

                              I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                              commitments for an LED spot build....



                              GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                              ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                              These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                              Power supply would be additional.

                              Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                              The more you make the less it costs overall.



                              Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                              demo and coffee.



                              I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                              I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                              version.



                              I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                              Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                              highest number of LEDs output possible.

                              Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                              more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                              I need to price the tubing yet.

                              If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                              foot these days.

                              Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                              (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                              You said you had mini brackets yes?

                              Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                              OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                              -----Original Message-----

                              From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                              To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                              Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                              I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                              white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                              I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                              participates at all.



                              Brian Warner

                              Evilusions LLC

                              440-655-5796

                              www.evilusions. com



                              ----- Original Message ----

                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                              Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                              Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                              bleh!

                              Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                              out some possible causes.

                              What kind of stock of leds you got?

                              I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                              can't recall the rest.



                              Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



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                            • Randy
                              Hey Cory, Do you have me down as attending?? Randy Skalos www.hauntonwilliams.com ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC ;
                              Message 14 of 28 , Jul 11, 2008
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                                Hey Cory,

                                Do you have me down as attending??

                                Randy Skalos
                                www.hauntonwilliams.com


                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: GoryCorey@...
                                To: 'Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC' ; EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                Cc: 'Brian Harchar'
                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24 AM
                                Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


                                Me neither brother.
                                I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                                commitments for an LED spot build....

                                GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                                Power supply would be additional.
                                Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                                The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                                demo and coffee.

                                I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                                I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                                version.

                                I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                                Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                                highest number of LEDs output possible.
                                Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                                more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                I need to price the tubing yet.
                                If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                                foot these days.
                                Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                                (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                You said you had mini brackets yes?
                                Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@...]
                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                                To: csminion@...
                                Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                                white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                                I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                                participates at all.

                                Brian Warner
                                Evilusions LLC
                                440-655-5796
                                www.evilusions.com

                                ----- Original Message ----
                                From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
                                To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@...>
                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                                Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                                bleh!
                                Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                                out some possible causes.
                                What kind of stock of leds you got?
                                I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                                can't recall the rest.

                                Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?





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                              • GoryCorey Minion
                                Do now! _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 5:33 PM To:
                                Message 15 of 28 , Jul 11, 2008
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                                  Do now!


                                  _____

                                  From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                  Behalf Of Randy
                                  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 5:33 PM
                                  To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                  Hey Cory,

                                  Do you have me down as attending??

                                  Randy Skalos
                                  www.hauntonwilliams.com

                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com
                                  To: 'Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC' ; EerieHaunts@
                                  <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                  Cc: 'Brian Harchar'
                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24 AM
                                  Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                  Me neither brother.
                                  I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3
                                  commitments for an LED spot build....

                                  GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                  ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                  These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.
                                  Power supply would be additional.
                                  Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.
                                  The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                  Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed
                                  demo and coffee.

                                  I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.
                                  I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power
                                  version.

                                  I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.
                                  Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the
                                  highest number of LEDs output possible.
                                  Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from
                                  more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                  I need to price the tubing yet.
                                  If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a
                                  foot these days.
                                  Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing
                                  (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                  You said you had mini brackets yes?
                                  Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                  OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@evilusions.
                                  <mailto:gadget%40evilusions.com> com]
                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM
                                  To: csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com
                                  Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                  I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and
                                  white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.
                                  I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one
                                  participates at all.

                                  Brian Warner
                                  Evilusions LLC
                                  440-655-5796
                                  www.evilusions.com

                                  ----- Original Message ----
                                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com"
                                  <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                  To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.
                                  <mailto:gadget%40evilusions.com> com>
                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM
                                  Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                  Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and
                                  bleh!
                                  Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule
                                  out some possible causes.
                                  What kind of stock of leds you got?
                                  I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but
                                  can't recall the rest.

                                  Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                • Brian Harchar
                                  Brian, Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend s M&T? Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey? THX Brian ...
                                  Message 16 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                    Brian,

                                    Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                    Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                    THX
                                    Brian

                                    --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@... <csminion@...> wrote:
                                    From: GoryCorey@... <csminion@...>
                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                    To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM











                                    15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                    scrap/loss

                                    I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                                    For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                    For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                    cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                    so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                    the grinder to clean the outside.

                                    It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                                    I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                    If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                    mechanical connection.



                                    You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                                    Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                    cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                    I will bring some of those too.

                                    I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                                    Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                    power supply than 12v.

                                    I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                    to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                                    I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                    orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                                    At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                    end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                    Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                                    _____



                                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                                    Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                    Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                    I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                    <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                    y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum angle

                                    that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                                    For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                                    For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                                    I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                    piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                    anything so no big loss.



                                    For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                    resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                    I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                                    For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                                    I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                    speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                    recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                    Brian Warner

                                    Evilusions LLC

                                    440-655-5796

                                    www.evilusions. com



                                    ----- Original Message ----

                                    From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                    <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                    <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                    Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                    Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                    Me neither brother.

                                    I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                    commitments for an LED spot build....



                                    GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                                    ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                                    These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                    Power supply would be additional.

                                    Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                    The more you make the less it costs overall.



                                    Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                    demo and coffee.



                                    I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                    I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                    version.



                                    I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                    Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                    highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                    Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                    more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                                    I need to price the tubing yet.

                                    If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                    foot these days.

                                    Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                    (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                                    You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                    Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                                    OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                                    -----Original Message-----

                                    From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                    To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                    Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                                    I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                    white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                    I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                    participates at all.



                                    Brian Warner

                                    Evilusions LLC

                                    440-655-5796

                                    www.evilusions. com



                                    ----- Original Message ----

                                    From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                    Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                                    Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                    bleh!

                                    Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                    out some possible causes.

                                    What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                    I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                    can't recall the rest.



                                    Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



                                    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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                                  • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                                    bring cash. It will be easiest. BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the payment lapse. C _____ From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                    Message 17 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                      bring cash. It will be easiest.
                                      BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the
                                      payment lapse.
                                      C

                                      _____

                                      From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                      Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                      Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM
                                      To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                      Brian,

                                      Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                      Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                      THX
                                      Brian

                                      --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com>
                                      b.com <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com> wrote:
                                      From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com
                                      <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                      Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                      15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                      scrap/loss

                                      I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                      For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                      For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                      cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                      so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                      the grinder to clean the outside.

                                      It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                      I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                      If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                      mechanical connection.

                                      You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                      Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                      cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                      I will bring some of those too.

                                      I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                      Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                      power supply than 12v.

                                      I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                      to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                      I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                      orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                      At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                      end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                      Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                      _____

                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                                      On

                                      Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                      Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                      I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                      <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                      y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum
                                      angle

                                      that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                      For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                      For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                      I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                      piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                      anything so no big loss.

                                      For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                      resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                      I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                      For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                      I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                      speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                      recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                      Brian Warner

                                      Evilusions LLC

                                      440-655-5796

                                      www.evilusions. com

                                      ----- Original Message ----

                                      From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                      <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                      <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                      <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                      Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                      Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                      Me neither brother.

                                      I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                      commitments for an LED spot build....

                                      GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                      ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                      These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                      Power supply would be additional.

                                      Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                      The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                      Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                      demo and coffee.

                                      I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                      I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                      version.

                                      I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                      Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                      highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                      Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                      more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                      I need to price the tubing yet.

                                      If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                      foot these days.

                                      Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                      (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                      You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                      Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                      OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                      -----Original Message-----

                                      From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                      To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                      Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                      I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                      white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                      I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                      participates at all.

                                      Brian Warner

                                      Evilusions LLC

                                      440-655-5796

                                      www.evilusions. com

                                      ----- Original Message ----

                                      From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                      Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                      Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                      bleh!

                                      Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                      out some possible causes.

                                      What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                      I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                      can't recall the rest.

                                      Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

                                      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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                                    • Brian Harchar
                                      I can do that.. how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20? ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE:
                                      Message 18 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                        I can do that..
                                        how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?


                                        --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@... <csminion@...> wrote:
                                        From: GoryCorey@... <csminion@...>
                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                        To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                        Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM











                                        bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                        BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                        payment lapse.

                                        C



                                        _____



                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                                        Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                        Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                        Brian,



                                        Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?



                                        Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?



                                        THX

                                        Brian



                                        --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>

                                        b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:

                                        From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                        Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM



                                        15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO



                                        scrap/loss



                                        I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                                        For speed I suggest a grinder.



                                        For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the



                                        cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.



                                        so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and



                                        the grinder to clean the outside.



                                        It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                                        I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......



                                        If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice



                                        mechanical connection.



                                        You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                                        Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be



                                        cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.



                                        I will bring some of those too.



                                        I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                                        Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v



                                        power supply than 12v.



                                        I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend



                                        to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                                        I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire



                                        orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                                        At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the



                                        end for folks to determine their own power hook up.



                                        Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                                        _____



                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                        On



                                        Behalf Of Brian Warner



                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM



                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                        Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                        I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit



                                        <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>



                                        y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                        angle



                                        that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                                        For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                                        For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                                        I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a



                                        piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for



                                        anything so no big loss.



                                        For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700



                                        resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know



                                        I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                                        For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                                        I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of



                                        speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you



                                        recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.



                                        Brian Warner



                                        Evilusions LLC



                                        440-655-5796



                                        www.evilusions. com



                                        ----- Original Message ----



                                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"



                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.



                                        <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@



                                        <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                        Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>



                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM



                                        Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                        Me neither brother.



                                        I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3



                                        commitments for an LED spot build....



                                        GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                                        ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                                        These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.



                                        Power supply would be additional.



                                        Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.



                                        The more you make the less it costs overall.



                                        Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed



                                        demo and coffee.



                                        I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.



                                        I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power



                                        version.



                                        I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.



                                        Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the



                                        highest number of LEDs output possible.



                                        Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from



                                        more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                                        I need to price the tubing yet.



                                        If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a



                                        foot these days.



                                        Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing



                                        (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                                        You said you had mini brackets yes?



                                        Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                                        OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                                        -----Original Message-----



                                        From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]



                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM



                                        To: csminion@minionsweb .com



                                        Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                                        I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and



                                        white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.



                                        I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one



                                        participates at all.



                                        Brian Warner



                                        Evilusions LLC



                                        440-655-5796



                                        www.evilusions. com



                                        ----- Original Message ----



                                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>



                                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>



                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM



                                        Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                                        Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and



                                        bleh!



                                        Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule



                                        out some possible causes.



                                        What kind of stock of leds you got?



                                        I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but



                                        can't recall the rest.



                                        Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



                                        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



                                        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



                                        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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                                      • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                                        yeah, I would bring a 20. I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure
                                        Message 19 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                          yeah, I would bring a 20.
                                          I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED
                                          spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20
                                          bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                          _____

                                          From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                          Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                          Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM
                                          To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                          I can do that..
                                          how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

                                          --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com>
                                          b.com <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com> wrote:
                                          From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com> b.com
                                          <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                          Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                          bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                          BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                          payment lapse.

                                          C

                                          _____

                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                                          On

                                          Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                          Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                          Brian,

                                          Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                          Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                          THX

                                          Brian

                                          --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.
                                          com>

                                          b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                                          wrote:

                                          From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                          Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                          15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                          scrap/loss

                                          I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                          For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                          For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                          cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                          so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                          the grinder to clean the outside.

                                          It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                          I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                          If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                          mechanical connection.

                                          You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                          Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                          cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                          I will bring some of those too.

                                          I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                          Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                          power supply than 12v.

                                          I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                          to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                          I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                          orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                          At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                          end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                          Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                          _____

                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                          On

                                          Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                          I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                          <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                          y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                          angle

                                          that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                          For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                          For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                          I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                          piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                          anything so no big loss.

                                          For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                          resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                          I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                          For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                          I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                          speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                          recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                          Brian Warner

                                          Evilusions LLC

                                          440-655-5796

                                          www.evilusions. com

                                          ----- Original Message ----

                                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                          <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                          <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                          Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                          Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                          Me neither brother.

                                          I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                          commitments for an LED spot build....

                                          GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                          ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                          These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                          Power supply would be additional.

                                          Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                          The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                          Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                          demo and coffee.

                                          I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                          I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                          version.

                                          I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                          Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                          highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                          Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                          more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                          I need to price the tubing yet.

                                          If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                          foot these days.

                                          Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                          (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                          You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                          Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                          OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                          -----Original Message-----

                                          From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                          To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                          Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                          I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                          white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                          I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                          participates at all.

                                          Brian Warner

                                          Evilusions LLC

                                          440-655-5796

                                          www.evilusions. com

                                          ----- Original Message ----

                                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                          Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                          Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                          bleh!

                                          Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                          out some possible causes.

                                          What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                          I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                          can't recall the rest.

                                          Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                        • Brian Warner
                                          We re having a M&T? lol Time to get all the body parts to one corner of the shop. Our shop is located at 1351 E. 354th St, Unit 2, Eastlake, Ohio, 44095
                                          Message 20 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                            We're having a M&T? lol
                                            Time to get all the body parts to one corner of the shop.
                                            Our shop is located at 1351 E. 354th St, Unit 2, Eastlake, Ohio, 44095

                                             Brian Warner
                                            Evilusions LLC
                                            440-655-5796
                                            www.evilusions.com



                                            ----- Original Message ----
                                            From: Brian Harchar <bharchar@...>
                                            To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                            Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:40:31 AM
                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19


                                            I can do that..
                                            how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

                                            --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe b.com <csminion@minionsweb .com> wrote:
                                            From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe b.com <csminion@minionsweb .com>
                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                                            Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                            bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                            BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                            payment lapse.

                                            C

                                            _____

                                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com] On

                                            Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                            Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                            Brian,

                                            Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                            Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                            THX

                                            Brian

                                            --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>

                                            b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:

                                            From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                            Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                            15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                            scrap/loss

                                            I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                            For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                            For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                            cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                            so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                            the grinder to clean the outside.

                                            It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                            I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                            If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                            mechanical connection.

                                            You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                            Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                            cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                            I will bring some of those too.

                                            I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                            Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                            power supply than 12v.

                                            I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                            to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                            I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                            orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                            At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                            end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                            Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                            _____

                                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                            On

                                            Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                            I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                            <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                            y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                            angle

                                            that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                            For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                            For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                            I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                            piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                            anything so no big loss.

                                            For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                            resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                            I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                            For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                            I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                            speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                            recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                            Brian Warner

                                            Evilusions LLC

                                            440-655-5796

                                            www.evilusions. com

                                            ----- Original Message ----

                                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                            <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                            <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                            Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                            Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                            Me neither brother.

                                            I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                            commitments for an LED spot build....

                                            GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                            ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                            These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                            Power supply would be additional.

                                            Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                            The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                            Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                            demo and coffee.

                                            I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                            I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                            version.

                                            I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                            Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                            highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                            Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                            more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                            I need to price the tubing yet.

                                            If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                            foot these days.

                                            Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                            (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                            You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                            Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                            OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                            -----Original Message-----

                                            From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                            To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                            Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                            I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                            white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                            I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                            participates at all.

                                            Brian Warner

                                            Evilusions LLC

                                            440-655-5796

                                            www.evilusions. com

                                            ----- Original Message ----

                                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                            Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                            Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                            bleh!

                                            Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                            out some possible causes.

                                            What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                            I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                            can't recall the rest.

                                            Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                          • Brian Harchar
                                            Great! I will do that then! I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T. Thanks for letting me know! Brian ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                                            Message 21 of 28 , Jul 14, 2008
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                                              Great! I will do that then!

                                              I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                              Thanks for letting me know!
                                              Brian


                                              --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@... <csminion@...> wrote:
                                              From: GoryCorey@... <csminion@...>
                                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                              To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                              Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM











                                              yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                              I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                              spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                              bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.



                                              _____



                                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                                              Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                              Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                              I can do that..

                                              how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?



                                              --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>

                                              b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:

                                              From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                              To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                              Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM



                                              bring cash. It will be easiest.



                                              BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the



                                              payment lapse.



                                              C



                                              _____



                                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                              On



                                              Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                              Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM



                                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                              Brian,



                                              Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?



                                              Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?



                                              THX



                                              Brian



                                              --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.

                                              com>



                                              b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                              wrote:



                                              From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com



                                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                              Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                              To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                              Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM



                                              15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO



                                              scrap/loss



                                              I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                                              For speed I suggest a grinder.



                                              For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the



                                              cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.



                                              so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and



                                              the grinder to clean the outside.



                                              It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                                              I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......



                                              If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice



                                              mechanical connection.



                                              You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                                              Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be



                                              cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.



                                              I will bring some of those too.



                                              I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                                              Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v



                                              power supply than 12v.



                                              I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend



                                              to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                                              I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire



                                              orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                                              At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the



                                              end for folks to determine their own power hook up.



                                              Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                                              _____



                                              From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                              On



                                              Behalf Of Brian Warner



                                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM



                                              To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                              Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                              I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit



                                              <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>



                                              y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum



                                              angle



                                              that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                                              For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                                              For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                                              I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a



                                              piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for



                                              anything so no big loss.



                                              For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700



                                              resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know



                                              I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                                              For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                                              I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of



                                              speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you



                                              recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.



                                              Brian Warner



                                              Evilusions LLC



                                              440-655-5796



                                              www.evilusions. com



                                              ----- Original Message ----



                                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"



                                              <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.



                                              <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@



                                              <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                              Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>



                                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM



                                              Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                              Me neither brother.



                                              I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3



                                              commitments for an LED spot build....



                                              GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                                              ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                                              These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.



                                              Power supply would be additional.



                                              Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.



                                              The more you make the less it costs overall.



                                              Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed



                                              demo and coffee.



                                              I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.



                                              I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power



                                              version.



                                              I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.



                                              Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the



                                              highest number of LEDs output possible.



                                              Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from



                                              more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                                              I need to price the tubing yet.



                                              If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a



                                              foot these days.



                                              Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing



                                              (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                                              You said you had mini brackets yes?



                                              Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                                              OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                                              -----Original Message-----



                                              From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]



                                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM



                                              To: csminion@minionsweb .com



                                              Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                                              I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and



                                              white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.



                                              I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one



                                              participates at all.



                                              Brian Warner



                                              Evilusions LLC



                                              440-655-5796



                                              www.evilusions. com



                                              ----- Original Message ----



                                              From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>



                                              To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>



                                              Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM



                                              Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                                              Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and



                                              bleh!



                                              Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule



                                              out some possible causes.



                                              What kind of stock of leds you got?



                                              I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but



                                              can't recall the rest.



                                              Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



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                                            • GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com
                                              This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy. ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW.... OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop? I still have
                                              Message 22 of 28 , Jul 15, 2008
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                                                This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.
                                                ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....

                                                OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?
                                                I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.

                                                Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?

                                                Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for
                                                the burgies....



                                                We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red
                                                and blue 5mm leds as well.
                                                Heat shrink is coming too.
                                                This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.
                                                I will locate a LED resistor calc for us
                                                Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?
                                                You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?
                                                I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something.....



                                                I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder
                                                station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the
                                                top of my head....
                                                If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not
                                                hurt either.

                                                Anything else any of you can think of us needing?



                                                _____

                                                From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                                Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                                Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM
                                                To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                Great! I will do that then!

                                                I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                                Thanks for letting me know!
                                                Brian

                                                --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com>
                                                b.com <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com> wrote:
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                                                <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                                To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                                Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM

                                                yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                                I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                                spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                                bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                                _____

                                                From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                                                On

                                                Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                                To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                I can do that..

                                                how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

                                                --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.
                                                com>

                                                b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                                                wrote:

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                                                <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                                bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                                BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                                payment lapse.

                                                C

                                                _____

                                                From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                On

                                                Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                Brian,

                                                Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                                Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                                THX

                                                Brian

                                                --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.

                                                com>

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                                                wrote:

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                                                <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                                15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                                scrap/loss

                                                I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                                For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                                For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                                cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                                so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                                the grinder to clean the outside.

                                                It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                                I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                                If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                                mechanical connection.

                                                You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                                Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                                cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                                I will bring some of those too.

                                                I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                                Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                                power supply than 12v.

                                                I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                                to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                                I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                                orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                                At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                                end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                                Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                                _____

                                                From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                On

                                                Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                                <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                                y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                                angle

                                                that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                                For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                                For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                                I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                                piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                                anything so no big loss.

                                                For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                                resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                                I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                                For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                                I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                                speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                                recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                                Brian Warner

                                                Evilusions LLC

                                                440-655-5796

                                                www.evilusions. com

                                                ----- Original Message ----

                                                From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                                <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                                <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                                <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                                Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                Me neither brother.

                                                I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                                commitments for an LED spot build....

                                                GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                                ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                                These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                                Power supply would be additional.

                                                Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                                The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                                Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                                demo and coffee.

                                                I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                                I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                                version.

                                                I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                                Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                                highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                                Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                                more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                                I need to price the tubing yet.

                                                If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                                foot these days.

                                                Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                                (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                                You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                                Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                                OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                                -----Original Message-----

                                                From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                                To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                                Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                                I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                                white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                                I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                                participates at all.

                                                Brian Warner

                                                Evilusions LLC

                                                440-655-5796

                                                www.evilusions. com

                                                ----- Original Message ----

                                                From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                                To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                                Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                                Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                                Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                                bleh!

                                                Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                                out some possible causes.

                                                What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                                I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                                can't recall the rest.

                                                Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                              • Brian Harchar
                                                Hey guys, I am good for the Brew.. and my home brew is ready.. so I ll bring a few of those. Since I know Brian W did not drink last time I ll toss in a root
                                                Message 23 of 28 , Jul 15, 2008
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                                                  Hey guys,

                                                  I am good for the Brew.. and my home brew is ready.. so I'll bring a few of those. Since I know Brian W did not drink last time I'll toss in a root beer or 2 for you.. you can let me know what you think as I made them the same day as the beer.

                                                  I'll try to swing by the store for chips ...but I am at the ready on the brew for sure.

                                                  I do not have a heat gun or soldering iron.. nor do i have a grinder...
                                                  are there any other required tools that I can bring?

                                                  Harch


                                                  --- On Tue, 7/15/08, GoryCorey@... <csminion@...> wrote:
                                                  From: GoryCorey@... <csminion@...>
                                                  Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08
                                                  To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:17 AM











                                                  This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.

                                                  ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....



                                                  OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?

                                                  I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.



                                                  Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?



                                                  Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for

                                                  the burgies....







                                                  We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red

                                                  and blue 5mm leds as well.

                                                  Heat shrink is coming too.

                                                  This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.

                                                  I will locate a LED resistor calc for us

                                                  Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?

                                                  You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?

                                                  I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something... ..







                                                  I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder

                                                  station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the

                                                  top of my head....

                                                  If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not

                                                  hurt either.



                                                  Anything else any of you can think of us needing?







                                                  _____



                                                  From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                                                  Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM

                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  Great! I will do that then!



                                                  I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.



                                                  Thanks for letting me know!

                                                  Brian



                                                  --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>

                                                  b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:

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                                                  <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                  Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM



                                                  yeah, I would bring a 20.



                                                  I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED



                                                  spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20



                                                  bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.



                                                  _____



                                                  From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                  On



                                                  Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                                  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM



                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  I can do that..



                                                  how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?



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                                                  com>



                                                  b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                  wrote:



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                                                  <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                  Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM



                                                  bring cash. It will be easiest.



                                                  BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the



                                                  payment lapse.



                                                  C



                                                  _____



                                                  From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                                  On



                                                  Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                                  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM



                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  Brian,



                                                  Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?



                                                  Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?



                                                  THX



                                                  Brian



                                                  --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.



                                                  com>



                                                  b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                                  wrote:



                                                  From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com



                                                  <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                                  Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                  Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM



                                                  15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO



                                                  scrap/loss



                                                  I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                                                  For speed I suggest a grinder.



                                                  For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the



                                                  cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.



                                                  so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and



                                                  the grinder to clean the outside.



                                                  It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                                                  I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......



                                                  If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice



                                                  mechanical connection.



                                                  You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                                                  Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be



                                                  cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.



                                                  I will bring some of those too.



                                                  I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                                                  Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v



                                                  power supply than 12v.



                                                  I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend



                                                  to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                                                  I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire



                                                  orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                                                  At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the



                                                  end for folks to determine their own power hook up.



                                                  Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                                                  _____



                                                  From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                                  On



                                                  Behalf Of Brian Warner



                                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM



                                                  To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                  Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit



                                                  <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>



                                                  y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum



                                                  angle



                                                  that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                                                  For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                                                  For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                                                  I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a



                                                  piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for



                                                  anything so no big loss.



                                                  For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700



                                                  resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know



                                                  I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                                                  For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                                                  I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of



                                                  speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you



                                                  recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.



                                                  Brian Warner



                                                  Evilusions LLC



                                                  440-655-5796



                                                  www.evilusions. com



                                                  ----- Original Message ----



                                                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"



                                                  <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>



                                                  To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.



                                                  <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@



                                                  <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                  Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>



                                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM



                                                  Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  Me neither brother.



                                                  I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3



                                                  commitments for an LED spot build....



                                                  GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                                                  ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                                                  These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.



                                                  Power supply would be additional.



                                                  Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.



                                                  The more you make the less it costs overall.



                                                  Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed



                                                  demo and coffee.



                                                  I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.



                                                  I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power



                                                  version.



                                                  I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.



                                                  Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the



                                                  highest number of LEDs output possible.



                                                  Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from



                                                  more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                                                  I need to price the tubing yet.



                                                  If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a



                                                  foot these days.



                                                  Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing



                                                  (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                                                  You said you had mini brackets yes?



                                                  Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                                                  OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                                                  -----Original Message-----



                                                  From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]



                                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM



                                                  To: csminion@minionsweb .com



                                                  Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                                                  I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and



                                                  white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.



                                                  I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one



                                                  participates at all.



                                                  Brian Warner



                                                  Evilusions LLC



                                                  440-655-5796



                                                  www.evilusions. com



                                                  ----- Original Message ----



                                                  From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>



                                                  To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>



                                                  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM



                                                  Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                                                  Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and



                                                  bleh!



                                                  Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule



                                                  out some possible causes.



                                                  What kind of stock of leds you got?



                                                  I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but



                                                  can't recall the rest.



                                                  Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



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                                                    From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                                    Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                                    Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:33 AM
                                                    To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08



                                                    Hey guys,

                                                    I am good for the Brew.. and my home brew is ready.. so I'll bring a few of
                                                    those. Since I know Brian W did not drink last time I'll toss in a root beer
                                                    or 2 for you.. you can let me know what you think as I made them the same
                                                    day as the beer.

                                                    I'll try to swing by the store for chips ...but I am at the ready on the
                                                    brew for sure.

                                                    I do not have a heat gun or soldering iron.. nor do i have a grinder...
                                                    are there any other required tools that I can bring?

                                                    Harch

                                                    --- On Tue, 7/15/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey%40MinionsWeb.com>
                                                    b.com <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com> wrote:
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                                                    <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                                    Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08
                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                                    Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:17 AM

                                                    This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.

                                                    ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....

                                                    OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?

                                                    I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.

                                                    Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?

                                                    Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for

                                                    the burgies....

                                                    We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red

                                                    and blue 5mm leds as well.

                                                    Heat shrink is coming too.

                                                    This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.

                                                    I will locate a LED resistor calc for us

                                                    Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?

                                                    You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?

                                                    I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something... ..

                                                    I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder

                                                    station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the

                                                    top of my head....

                                                    If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not

                                                    hurt either.

                                                    Anything else any of you can think of us needing?

                                                    _____

                                                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                                                    On

                                                    Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                    Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    Great! I will do that then!

                                                    I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                                    Thanks for letting me know!

                                                    Brian

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                                                    com>

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                                                    wrote:

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                                                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                    Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM

                                                    yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                                    I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                                    spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                                    bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                                    _____

                                                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                    On

                                                    Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                    Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    I can do that..

                                                    how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

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                                                    com>

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                                                    wrote:

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                                                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                    Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                                    bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                                    BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                                    payment lapse.

                                                    C

                                                    _____

                                                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                    On

                                                    Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                    Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    Brian,

                                                    Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                                    Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                                    THX

                                                    Brian

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                                                    wrote:

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                                                    Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                    Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                                    15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                                    scrap/loss

                                                    I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                                    For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                                    For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                                    cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                                    so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                                    the grinder to clean the outside.

                                                    It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                                    I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                                    If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                                    mechanical connection.

                                                    You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                                    Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                                    cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                                    I will bring some of those too.

                                                    I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                                    Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                                    power supply than 12v.

                                                    I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                                    to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                                    I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                                    orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                                    At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                                    end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                                    Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                                    _____

                                                    From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                    On

                                                    Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                    To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                    Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                                    <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                                    y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                                    angle

                                                    that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                                    For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                                    For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                                    I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                                    piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                                    anything so no big loss.

                                                    For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                                    resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                                    I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                                    For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                                    I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                                    speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                                    recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                                    Brian Warner

                                                    Evilusions LLC

                                                    440-655-5796

                                                    www.evilusions. com

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                                                    <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                                    <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                                    <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                    Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                                    Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    Me neither brother.

                                                    I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                                    commitments for an LED spot build....

                                                    GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                                    ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                                    These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                                    Power supply would be additional.

                                                    Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                                    The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                                    Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                                    demo and coffee.

                                                    I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                                    I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                                    version.

                                                    I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                                    Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                                    highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                                    Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                                    more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                                    I need to price the tubing yet.

                                                    If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                                    foot these days.

                                                    Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                                    (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                                    You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                                    Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                                    OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                                    -----Original Message-----

                                                    From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                                    To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                                    Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                                    I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                                    white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                                    I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                                    participates at all.

                                                    Brian Warner

                                                    Evilusions LLC

                                                    440-655-5796

                                                    www.evilusions. com

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                                                    To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                                    Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                                    Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                                    Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                                    bleh!

                                                    Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                                    out some possible causes.

                                                    What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                                    I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                                    can't recall the rest.

                                                    Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                                    YES... YES I DO! I will bring that along! ... From: GoryCorey@MinionsWeb.com Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08 To:
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                                                      YES... YES I DO! I will bring that along!



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                                                      To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
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                                                      Church Key



                                                      _____



                                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On

                                                      Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                      Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:33 AM

                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                      Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08



                                                      Hey guys,



                                                      I am good for the Brew.. and my home brew is ready.. so I'll bring a few of

                                                      those. Since I know Brian W did not drink last time I'll toss in a root beer

                                                      or 2 for you.. you can let me know what you think as I made them the same

                                                      day as the beer.



                                                      I'll try to swing by the store for chips ...but I am at the ready on the

                                                      brew for sure.



                                                      I do not have a heat gun or soldering iron.. nor do i have a grinder...

                                                      are there any other required tools that I can bring?



                                                      Harch



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                                                      b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:

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                                                      <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                      Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08

                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                      Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:17 AM



                                                      This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.



                                                      ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....



                                                      OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?



                                                      I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.



                                                      Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?



                                                      Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for



                                                      the burgies....



                                                      We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red



                                                      and blue 5mm leds as well.



                                                      Heat shrink is coming too.



                                                      This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.



                                                      I will locate a LED resistor calc for us



                                                      Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?



                                                      You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?



                                                      I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something... ..



                                                      I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder



                                                      station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the



                                                      top of my head....



                                                      If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not



                                                      hurt either.



                                                      Anything else any of you can think of us needing?



                                                      _____



                                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                      On



                                                      Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                                      Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      Great! I will do that then!



                                                      I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.



                                                      Thanks for letting me know!



                                                      Brian



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                                                      com>



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                                                      wrote:



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                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                      Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM



                                                      yeah, I would bring a 20.



                                                      I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED



                                                      spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20



                                                      bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.



                                                      _____



                                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                                      On



                                                      Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                                      Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      I can do that..



                                                      how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?



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                                                      wrote:



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                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                      Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM



                                                      bring cash. It will be easiest.



                                                      BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the



                                                      payment lapse.



                                                      C



                                                      _____



                                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                                      On



                                                      Behalf Of Brian Harchar



                                                      Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      Brian,



                                                      Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?



                                                      Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?



                                                      THX



                                                      Brian



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                                                      wrote:



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                                                      Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                      Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM



                                                      15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO



                                                      scrap/loss



                                                      I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.



                                                      For speed I suggest a grinder.



                                                      For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the



                                                      cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.



                                                      so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and



                                                      the grinder to clean the outside.



                                                      It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.



                                                      I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......



                                                      If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice



                                                      mechanical connection.



                                                      You have a sand blaster at the shop?



                                                      Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be



                                                      cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.



                                                      I will bring some of those too.



                                                      I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.



                                                      Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v



                                                      power supply than 12v.



                                                      I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend



                                                      to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.



                                                      I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire



                                                      orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.



                                                      At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the



                                                      end for folks to determine their own power hook up.



                                                      Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...



                                                      _____



                                                      From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]



                                                      On



                                                      Behalf Of Brian Warner



                                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM



                                                      To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com



                                                      Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit



                                                      <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>



                                                      y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum



                                                      angle



                                                      that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.



                                                      For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.



                                                      For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.



                                                      I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a



                                                      piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for



                                                      anything so no big loss.



                                                      For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700



                                                      resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know



                                                      I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.



                                                      For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.



                                                      I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of



                                                      speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you



                                                      recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.



                                                      Brian Warner



                                                      Evilusions LLC



                                                      440-655-5796



                                                      www.evilusions. com



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                                                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.



                                                      <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@



                                                      <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com



                                                      Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>



                                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM



                                                      Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      Me neither brother.



                                                      I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3



                                                      commitments for an LED spot build....



                                                      GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)



                                                      ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.



                                                      These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.



                                                      Power supply would be additional.



                                                      Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.



                                                      The more you make the less it costs overall.



                                                      Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed



                                                      demo and coffee.



                                                      I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.



                                                      I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power



                                                      version.



                                                      I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.



                                                      Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the



                                                      highest number of LEDs output possible.



                                                      Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from



                                                      more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).



                                                      I need to price the tubing yet.



                                                      If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a



                                                      foot these days.



                                                      Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing



                                                      (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.



                                                      You said you had mini brackets yes?



                                                      Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?



                                                      OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!



                                                      -----Original Message-----



                                                      From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]



                                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM



                                                      To: csminion@minionsweb .com



                                                      Subject: Re: M&T 7-19



                                                      I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and



                                                      white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.



                                                      I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one



                                                      participates at all.



                                                      Brian Warner



                                                      Evilusions LLC



                                                      440-655-5796



                                                      www.evilusions. com



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                                                      To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>



                                                      Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM



                                                      Subject: RE: M&T 7-19



                                                      Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and



                                                      bleh!



                                                      Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule



                                                      out some possible causes.



                                                      What kind of stock of leds you got?



                                                      I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but



                                                      can't recall the rest.



                                                      Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?



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                                                    • Brian Warner
                                                      Yes, I have a grill at the shop. I already calculated led resistors for 9v , here is an piece of my chart, 12vdc # of leds forvard v 1 2 3 4 5 red 2 560
                                                      Message 26 of 28 , Jul 15, 2008
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                                                        Yes, I have a grill at the shop.
                                                        I already calculated led resistors for 9v , here is an piece of my chart,
                                                        12vdc # of leds forvard v 1 2 3 4 5
                                                        red 2 560 1/2w 470 1/2w 330 1/4w 180 1/4w 82 1/4w
                                                        orange 2 560 1/2w 470 1/2w 330 1/4w 180 1/4w 82 1/4w
                                                        yellow 2.1 560 1/2w 390 1/2w 330 1/4w 150 1/4w 68 1/4w
                                                        green 2.2 560 1/2w 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 47 1/4w
                                                        true green 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                        blue 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                        white 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                        uv 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                        blue 430nm 4.6 390 1/2w 150 1/4w
                                                        9vdc # of leds forward v 1 2 3 4 5
                                                        red 2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 56 1/4w
                                                        orange 2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 56 1/4w
                                                        yellow 2.1 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 33 1/4w
                                                        green 2.2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w 10 1/4w
                                                        true green 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                        blue 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                        white 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                        uv 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                        blue 430nm 4.6 220 1/4w
                                                        I don't have wifi, i have my alltel wireless device, so I will have internet on my laptop at the shop.
                                                        I will still do the prop-1 demo with pneumatics and led lighting on the coffin we built last time.

                                                         Brian Warner
                                                        Evilusions LLC
                                                        440-655-5796
                                                        www.evilusions.com



                                                        ----- Original Message ----
                                                        From: "GoryCorey@..." <csminion@...>
                                                        To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                        Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:17:14 AM
                                                        Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08


                                                        This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.
                                                        ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....

                                                        OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?
                                                        I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.

                                                        Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?

                                                        Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for
                                                        the burgies....



                                                        We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red
                                                        and blue 5mm leds as well.
                                                        Heat shrink is coming too.
                                                        This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.
                                                        I will locate a LED resistor calc for us
                                                        Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?
                                                        You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?
                                                        I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something... ..



                                                        I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder
                                                        station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the
                                                        top of my head....
                                                        If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not
                                                        hurt either.

                                                        Anything else any of you can think of us needing?



                                                        _____

                                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com] On
                                                        Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                                        Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM
                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        Great! I will do that then!

                                                        I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                                        Thanks for letting me know!
                                                        Brian

                                                        --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>
                                                        b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:
                                                        From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com
                                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                                                        Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM

                                                        yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                                        I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                                        spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                                        bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                                        _____

                                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                                                        On

                                                        Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                        Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        I can do that..

                                                        how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

                                                        --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.
                                                        com>

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                                                        wrote:

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                                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                        Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                                        bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                                        BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                                        payment lapse.

                                                        C

                                                        _____

                                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                        On

                                                        Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                        Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        Brian,

                                                        Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                                        Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                                        THX

                                                        Brian

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                                                        com>

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                                                        wrote:

                                                        From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                        Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                        Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                                        15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                                        scrap/loss

                                                        I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                                        For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                                        For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                                        cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                                        so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                                        the grinder to clean the outside.

                                                        It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                                        I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                                        If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                                        mechanical connection.

                                                        You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                                        Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                                        cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                                        I will bring some of those too.

                                                        I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                                        Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                                        power supply than 12v.

                                                        I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                                        to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                                        I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                                        orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                                        At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                                        end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                                        Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                                        _____

                                                        From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                        On

                                                        Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                        To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                        Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                                        <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                                        y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                                        angle

                                                        that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                                        For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                                        For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                                        I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                                        piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                                        anything so no big loss.

                                                        For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                                        resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                                        I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                                        For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                                        I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                                        speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                                        recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                                        Brian Warner

                                                        Evilusions LLC

                                                        440-655-5796

                                                        www.evilusions. com

                                                        ----- Original Message ----

                                                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                                        <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                                        <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                                        <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                        Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                                        Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        Me neither brother.

                                                        I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                                        commitments for an LED spot build....

                                                        GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                                        ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                                        These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                                        Power supply would be additional.

                                                        Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                                        The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                                        Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                                        demo and coffee.

                                                        I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                                        I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                                        version.

                                                        I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                                        Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                                        highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                                        Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                                        more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                                        I need to price the tubing yet.

                                                        If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                                        foot these days.

                                                        Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                                        (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                                        You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                                        Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                                        OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                                        -----Original Message-----

                                                        From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                                        To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                                        Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                                        I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                                        white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                                        I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                                        participates at all.

                                                        Brian Warner

                                                        Evilusions LLC

                                                        440-655-5796

                                                        www.evilusions. com

                                                        ----- Original Message ----

                                                        From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                                        To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                                        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                                        Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                                        Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                                        bleh!

                                                        Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                                        out some possible causes.

                                                        What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                                        I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                                        can't recall the rest.

                                                        Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                                      • Brian Warner
                                                        Well, that didnt show up as well as it did in my email, sorry, I can print it out for saturday  Brian Warner Evilusions LLC 440-655-5796 www.evilusions.com
                                                        Message 27 of 28 , Jul 15, 2008
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                                                          Well, that didnt show up as well as it did in my email, sorry, I can print it out for saturday

                                                           Brian Warner
                                                          Evilusions LLC
                                                          440-655-5796
                                                          www.evilusions.com



                                                          ----- Original Message ----
                                                          From: Brian Warner <deathstoofaraway666@...>
                                                          To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                          Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:45:04 AM
                                                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08


                                                          Yes, I have a grill at the shop.
                                                          I already calculated led resistors for 9v , here is an piece of my chart,
                                                          12vdc # of leds forvard v 1 2 3 4 5
                                                          red 2 560 1/2w 470 1/2w 330 1/4w 180 1/4w 82 1/4w
                                                          orange 2 560 1/2w 470 1/2w 330 1/4w 180 1/4w 82 1/4w
                                                          yellow 2.1 560 1/2w 390 1/2w 330 1/4w 150 1/4w 68 1/4w
                                                          green 2.2 560 1/2w 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 47 1/4w
                                                          true green 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                          blue 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                          white 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                          uv 3.3 470 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w
                                                          blue 430nm 4.6 390 1/2w 150 1/4w
                                                          9vdc # of leds forward v 1 2 3 4 5
                                                          red 2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 56 1/4w
                                                          orange 2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 56 1/4w
                                                          yellow 2.1 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 150 1/4w 33 1/4w
                                                          green 2.2 390 1/2w 270 1/4w 120 1/4w 10 1/4w
                                                          true green 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                          blue 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                          white 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                          uv 3.3 330 1/4w 150 1/4w
                                                          blue 430nm 4.6 220 1/4w
                                                          I don't have wifi, i have my alltel wireless device, so I will have internet on my laptop at the shop.
                                                          I will still do the prop-1 demo with pneumatics and led lighting on the coffin we built last time.

                                                           Brian Warner
                                                          Evilusions LLC
                                                          440-655-5796
                                                          www.evilusions. com

                                                          ----- Original Message ----
                                                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsWe b.com" <csminion@minionsweb .com>
                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                                                          Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:17:14 AM
                                                          Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08

                                                          This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.
                                                          ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....

                                                          OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?
                                                          I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.

                                                          Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?

                                                          Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for
                                                          the burgies....

                                                          We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red
                                                          and blue 5mm leds as well.
                                                          Heat shrink is coming too.
                                                          This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.
                                                          I will locate a LED resistor calc for us
                                                          Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?
                                                          You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?
                                                          I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something... ..

                                                          I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder
                                                          station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the
                                                          top of my head....
                                                          If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not
                                                          hurt either.

                                                          Anything else any of you can think of us needing?

                                                          _____

                                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com] On
                                                          Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                                          Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM
                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com
                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          Great! I will do that then!

                                                          I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                                          Thanks for letting me know!
                                                          Brian

                                                          --- On Mon, 7/14/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com>
                                                          b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com> wrote:
                                                          From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com
                                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com
                                                          Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM

                                                          yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                                          I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                                          spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                                          bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                                          _____

                                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]
                                                          On

                                                          Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                          Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          I can do that..

                                                          how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

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                                                          com>

                                                          b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                          Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                                          bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                                          BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                                          payment lapse.

                                                          C

                                                          _____

                                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                          On

                                                          Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                          Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          Brian,

                                                          Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                                          Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                                          THX

                                                          Brian

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                                                          com>

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                                                          wrote:

                                                          From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                          Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                          Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                                          15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                                          scrap/loss

                                                          I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                                          For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                                          For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                                          cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                                          so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                                          the grinder to clean the outside.

                                                          It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                                          I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                                          If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                                          mechanical connection.

                                                          You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                                          Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                                          cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                                          I will bring some of those too.

                                                          I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                                          Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                                          power supply than 12v.

                                                          I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                                          to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                                          I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                                          orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                                          At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                                          end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                                          Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                                          _____

                                                          From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                          On

                                                          Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                          To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                          Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                                          <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                                          y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                                          angle

                                                          that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                                          For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                                          For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                                          I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                                          piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                                          anything so no big loss.

                                                          For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                                          resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                                          I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                                          For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                                          I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                                          speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                                          recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                                          Brian Warner

                                                          Evilusions LLC

                                                          440-655-5796

                                                          www.evilusions. com

                                                          ----- Original Message ----

                                                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                                          <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                                          <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                                          <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                          Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                                          Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          Me neither brother.

                                                          I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                                          commitments for an LED spot build....

                                                          GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                                          ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                                          These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                                          Power supply would be additional.

                                                          Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                                          The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                                          Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                                          demo and coffee.

                                                          I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                                          I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                                          version.

                                                          I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                                          Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                                          highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                                          Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                                          more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                                          I need to price the tubing yet.

                                                          If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                                          foot these days.

                                                          Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                                          (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                                          You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                                          Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                                          OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                                          -----Original Message-----

                                                          From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                                          To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                                          Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                                          I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                                          white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                                          I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                                          participates at all.

                                                          Brian Warner

                                                          Evilusions LLC

                                                          440-655-5796

                                                          www.evilusions. com

                                                          ----- Original Message ----

                                                          From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                                          To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                                          Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                                          Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                                          Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                                          bleh!

                                                          Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                                          out some possible causes.

                                                          What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                                          I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                                          can't recall the rest.

                                                          Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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                                                        • Randy
                                                          Hey Corey, I can bring whatever else we would like to eat...Let me know and I ll keep thinking in the meantime to what to bring as well. I will be bringing a
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                                                            Hey Corey,

                                                            I can bring whatever else we would like to eat...Let me know and I'll keep thinking in the meantime to what to bring as well. I will be bringing a guest with me--Spitting Debby. I dont think she has much of an appetite for out type of food though....

                                                            I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday!!!

                                                            Randy
                                                            ----- Original Message -----
                                                            From: GoryCorey@...
                                                            To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                            Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:17 AM
                                                            Subject: [EerieHaunts] LED SPOTS M&T 7/19/08


                                                            This is figuring on me, Brian W, Brian H, and Randy.
                                                            ANYONE ELSE? SPEAK UP NOW....

                                                            OK, on to other items - Gadget, you have a grill at the shop?
                                                            I still have burgers, buns and cheese to bring.

                                                            Harchar, you bring brew n chips again?

                                                            Randy, fill in something else would ya, something to snack on, or a side for
                                                            the burgies....



                                                            We have (6) 9v 2amp walwarts coming, and I ordered a hundred hi power red
                                                            and blue 5mm leds as well.
                                                            Heat shrink is coming too.
                                                            This will be on top of whatever Gadget and I both have on hand.
                                                            I will locate a LED resistor calc for us
                                                            Gadget I will bring my laptop too, you have wifi at the shop?
                                                            You still planning on doing the prop1/2 demo?
                                                            I will try to remember to bring mine, maybe I can learn something.....



                                                            I will be bringing 2 grinders, 1 heat gun, one caulk gun, one solder
                                                            station/solder etc., drill driver, small torch, and pieces parts - off the
                                                            top of my head....
                                                            If you have a heat gun or soldering iron, bring it. small grinders would not
                                                            hurt either.

                                                            Anything else any of you can think of us needing?



                                                            _____

                                                            From: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com] On
                                                            Behalf Of Brian Harchar
                                                            Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM
                                                            To: EerieHaunts@yahoogroups.com
                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            Great! I will do that then!

                                                            I will also bring cash to pay Brian for last months M&T.

                                                            Thanks for letting me know!
                                                            Brian

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                                                            <csminion@minionsweb <mailto:csminion%40minionsweb.com> .com>
                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19
                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
                                                            Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:49 AM

                                                            yeah, I would bring a 20.

                                                            I have 9vcd 2a power supplies coming (should run OOOOODLES of the LED

                                                            spots) which will run about 6 each after shipping, and figure the rest of 20

                                                            bucks should be plenty for the rest of the led spot parts.

                                                            _____

                                                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com]
                                                            On

                                                            Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                            Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 AM

                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            I can do that..

                                                            how much should I bring for this event.. $10-20?

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                                                            com>

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                                                            wrote:

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                                                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                            Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 11:13 AM

                                                            bring cash. It will be easiest.

                                                            BTW, the last build, you own brain for, he brought the ply, I let the

                                                            payment lapse.

                                                            C

                                                            _____

                                                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                            On

                                                            Behalf Of Brian Harchar

                                                            Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:05 AM

                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            Brian,

                                                            Can i grab an address so I can google map you for this weekend's M&T?

                                                            Also for this event, do we pay again through p-pal to you or corey?

                                                            THX

                                                            Brian

                                                            --- On Thu, 7/10/08, GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb.

                                                            com>

                                                            b.com <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                            wrote:

                                                            From: GoryCorey@MinionsWe <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com

                                                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                            Subject: RE: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                            Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:21 AM

                                                            15' will only go so far - figure about 3" per spot that is 60 with NO

                                                            scrap/loss

                                                            I have tons of 1/4" scrap copper that will work too.

                                                            For speed I suggest a grinder.

                                                            For neatness we can use my Jewelers frame, but that means I do all the

                                                            cutting,since the blades are fragile and sawing with one is an art.

                                                            so I vote grinder, then use a step bit to clean the inside of the hole and

                                                            the grinder to clean the outside.

                                                            It can also notch the tube for the wires weeeeeeee.

                                                            I will demonstrate the Jewelers saw......

                                                            If you really want I can also demonstrate silver soldering for a really nice

                                                            mechanical connection.

                                                            You have a sand blaster at the shop?

                                                            Another option for the holders, is cable clips, nutted together they will be

                                                            cheap cheap and good for offset with the nylon screw sets.

                                                            I will bring some of those too.

                                                            I think I have some good ideas for them that you all will like.

                                                            Overkill on the resistors just means the leds will run a little dimmer on 9v

                                                            power supply than 12v.

                                                            I do not think it will be that noticable, usually most of the resistors tend

                                                            to be between 270 and 470, I am sure we can make due.

                                                            I believe I have sufficient wire, or we can grab some thermostat wire

                                                            orrrrrrrrr Lan wire.

                                                            At this point I am planning to make simple spots, with leads loose at the

                                                            end for folks to determine their own power hook up.

                                                            Me - I go for molex connections personally.. ...

                                                            _____

                                                            From: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:EerieHaunts @ yahoogroups. com]

                                                            On

                                                            Behalf Of Brian Warner

                                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                                                            To: EerieHaunts@ yahoogroups. com

                                                            Subject: Re: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            I currently have like 40 of these little brackets, http://www.servocit

                                                            <http://www.servocit y.com/html/ clear_hole_ brackets. html>

                                                            y.com/html/clear_ hole_brackets. html , plus I have a bunch of aluminum

                                                            angle

                                                            that I could make up a bunch of whatever real quick also.

                                                            For tubing I have 15' of 260 brass, .250 id with an 9/32" od.

                                                            For hardware I bought 6-32 nylon thumbscrews and nuts, I have 100 of these.

                                                            I also have like 20 - 9vdc 300ma power supplies that I got for like $4 a

                                                            piece that I can part with for that much. I am not going to use them for

                                                            anything so no big loss.

                                                            For resistors, I tons to operate any color led at 12vdc, but I bought a 2700

                                                            resistor variety pack last season and haven't use much of it yet, so I know

                                                            I have 100 of whatever resistor we need for whatever color we need.

                                                            For leds, I have 100 in white, uv, blue, orange, yellow 5mm standard output.

                                                            I think the only thing i am missing is wire, although I have a bunch of

                                                            speaker wire, and a fine enough blade saw to cut the tubing, what do you

                                                            recommend mr jewler minion, I will go buy a couple.

                                                            Brian Warner

                                                            Evilusions LLC

                                                            440-655-5796

                                                            www.evilusions. com

                                                            ----- Original Message ----

                                                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e <mailto:GoryCorey% 40MinionsWeb. com> b.com"

                                                            <csminion@minionswe b <mailto:csminion% 40minionsweb. com> .com>

                                                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions.

                                                            <mailto:gadget% 40evilusions. com> com>; EerieHaunts@

                                                            <mailto:EerieHaunts %40yahoogroups. com> yahoogroups. com

                                                            Cc: Brian Harchar <bharchar@yahoo. <mailto:bharchar% 40yahoo.com> com>

                                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24:27 AM

                                                            Subject: [EerieHaunts] RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            Me neither brother.

                                                            I cannot figure out how with 125 members we cannot get more than 3

                                                            commitments for an LED spot build....

                                                            GUILT GUILT GUILT - get it ;)

                                                            ANYONE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE MUST SAY SO ASAP.

                                                            These can only cost 3-4 bucks a pop individually at most.

                                                            Power supply would be additional.

                                                            Bring 20 bucks, plan on leaving with at least a few spots.

                                                            The more you make the less it costs overall.

                                                            Build is at Evilusions workshop in Eastlake Oh, starting at 10 am with speed

                                                            demo and coffee.

                                                            I presume the LED resistors you have are based on 9v right? Mine are.

                                                            I have regular output in a few colors, my UVs are supposedly high power

                                                            version.

                                                            I will seek out a number of 9V power supplies able to run multiple spots.

                                                            Shooting for ones that run under 10 bucks per power supply yet get us the

                                                            highest number of LEDs output possible.

                                                            Then will order between 6-12 depending on the output, unless I hear from

                                                            more people by Friday (achem....it is THURSDAY!).

                                                            I need to price the tubing yet.

                                                            If we use copper (not the first choice too flexible) it runs about 1 buck a

                                                            foot these days.

                                                            Need to get an hour to stop at auto parts store and see brake line pricing

                                                            (steel and aluminum), I suspect they are similar in pricing.

                                                            You said you had mini brackets yes?

                                                            Or do I need to get those from Grainger or the like?

                                                            OK, lets wrap this sucker up so we can build!

                                                            -----Original Message-----

                                                            From: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC [mailto:gadget@ evilusions. com]

                                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:34 AM

                                                            To: csminion@minionsweb .com

                                                            Subject: Re: M&T 7-19

                                                            I have a bunch of the standard output 5mm in uv, blue, orange, yellow, and

                                                            white. If you think we should get some high output ones we can.

                                                            I don't understand how that many people are in the group yet no one

                                                            participates at all.

                                                            Brian Warner

                                                            Evilusions LLC

                                                            440-655-5796

                                                            www.evilusions. com

                                                            ----- Original Message ----

                                                            From: "GoryCorey@MinionsW e b.com" <csminion@minionswe b .com>

                                                            To: Brian Warner - Evilusions LLC <gadget@evilusions. com>

                                                            Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:28:35 AM

                                                            Subject: RE: M&T 7-19

                                                            Looks like you me & brian, nothing from anyone else, damn, 125 members and

                                                            bleh!

                                                            Still doing shitty, having tests in 2 weeks after some treatments to rule

                                                            out some possible causes.

                                                            What kind of stock of leds you got?

                                                            I have to see what I have, I believe I have a decent amount of Uvs, but

                                                            can't recall the rest.

                                                            Should we order some more high powers from besthongkong?

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