Re: Eck Spiritual Skills Seminar, etc.
- Hi, Ingrid!
I threw out most of my eck stuff too, but as you say some still
creeps out of dark corners! I think there is a large photo of Harold
in a closet--I'm thinking of using it as a dart board or something
like it! LOL!
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "ctecvie"
> Hello Prometheus,
> > I see that there is an extention to sign-up for this March 24-27
> > seminar and that there will even be workshops at the new Eck
> > Spiritual Center... whoopee! The extention must mean that not as
> > many people are signing up as they had hoped. Even late March in
> > Minnesota can produce nasty weather. So why not choose Florida
> > instead! Too bad Harold isn't more sensitive to his followers.
> I cannot understand why those seminars are held in one place only
> from this year on! I guess it's because Harold doesn't want to
> travel. :-)) OK, the place in Chanhassen is nice, and while I
> was an Eckist, I liked the temple very much and had a coming-homeyear!
> feeling. But I don't think I would like to travel there every
> It's not that nice ... :-))friends
> > I think back to all of the money I spent on travel, hotels, and
> > at these seminars and it amazes me how much money people spend
> > to these redundant events. However, it was nice to see old
> > and do some sight-seeing (of sorts).often.
> It's amazing for sure. It depends on the priorities you have. My
> husband and me sometimes went to such a seminar, but not too
> You just have to decide what you want. We didn't always want tohave
> a seminar, though! :-) But sometimes we decided to attend one andevery
> then we liked it. But I know eckists who travel to Minneapolis
> year. They don't have much money so they travel by car fromQuébec
> every year. It's exhausting for sure, and their health is not theIt
> best. But they want to do it, so they do it - each and every year.
> always amazed me because I think there are for sure things you cando
> at home that are as spiritual as going to the worldwide?? :-)we
> > I threw away
> > hundreds of dollars worth of books, discourses, pocket posters,
> > brochures, HU cards, etc. when I left one year ago. My wife and
> > probably spent at least $30,000 in just attending seminars anddoesn't
> > $3,000 on study materials and vahana stuff. This of course
> > cover the yearly donation which probably over the years totaledto
> > around $15,000 at least!initiates 2-
> We threw away all of our books and pictures and things, too! And
> there are still things turning up from dark corners from time to
> time! The last book I have is the leadership handbook for
> 4. I will give that to a new eckist who needs to read it for finalread
> decision whether she shall stay or not. Before giving it away, I
> it through. It's quite clear to me that the goal has been since atraining
> very long time ... recruiting new members. That's why this
> was set up. It's good that I didn't get around to finish itbecause
> after 2 sessions I started to read Ford Johnson's book and then mythe
> husband and I left! :-)
> > Anyway, if anyone wants to vent some anger or frustration for
> > years of deception and share some information or insights pleaseEck
> > feel free to do so. I'm amazed at the new clarity of mind and
> > freedom I now feel from having left Eckankar. I still have some
> > books and even have an Eckist friend fax me her Mystic World andthe
> > sometimes her H.I. Letter when I ask. When I re-read these books
> > look at Paul Twitchell's or Harold's words with more clarity and
> > scrutiny I can now see the truth behind their deceptions.
> Yes the mind gets very clear, doesn't it? It's so good! And it's
> true, too, that when you read those books with your "new" eyes,
> deceptions are quite obvious. The problem is that there's truth in
> the teaching, but it's somehow distorted and twisted - it's truth,
> and then it's not truth. That's quite confusing.
> Thanks for the site!