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Re: HK's Idioms of Wisdom

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello Etznab and All, Yes, it seems Klemp has a very generic receipt for his spiritual food he spoon feeds to his flock of chickens both inside and outside
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 28, 2013
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      Hello Etznab and All,
      Yes, it seems Klemp
      has a very generic receipt
      for his "spiritual" food
      he spoon feeds to his
      flock of chickens both
      inside and outside of
      the EK henhouse. In his
      small world he's a shy
      old, clever, but redundant,
      grey fox!

      Klemp never really addresses
      present day problems or issues.

      When reading Klemp's dribble
      one doesn't see any context
      involving real present-day life
      situations. I thought one of the
      "keys" to Eckankar was living
      in the Present... the now!

      HK wants to give the appearance
      of staying neutral, but this is
      a lazy and passive approach
      which is, in essence, a sin of
      omission. ECKists vote and are
      very involved with issues and
      what takes place in their countries.
      This is life on earth and where
      we learn our lessons and, then,
      demonstrate what we have or
      have not learned. And, most
      EKists are for equality and human
      rights and voted for and supported
      Obama as did I. Eckists who
      participate in ethical issues
      are being proactive, positive
      and concerned citizens. But
      not Klemp. He's afraid to take
      a position and say anything...
      he's not only NOT a leader
      he's not even capable of having
      empathy.

      Imagine if the Leader of the
      ECKankar Church had a press
      conference and took a stand
      FOR Gay marriage. Many more
      people might take notice and
      start to look into Eckankar because
      they liked what they heard. If
      people saw that Klemp wasn't
      afraid of National publicity and
      public scrutiny, then, what's to
      fear from this strange little sect
      of Sant Mat?

      That won't happen, of course,
      because HK is a fearful little
      old recluse and conman who
      couldn't take the heat of the
      kitchen. That's why he steals
      other people's receipts and has
      others (vahanas) do the cooking
      for him. Just as well. I've tasted
      his food and the ingredients
      were spoiled to begin with.

      Prometheus
      p.s. Here's something I saw on
      the newsfeed: Remember that
      Federal Ethics Investigation into
      Michelle Bachmann's campaign
      finances? Glenn Beck says it's a
      plot by "radical Islam."

      Now if we can just get Klemp
      to show the ECK Membership
      both his, and Eckankar's, finances!




      etznab wrote:
      >
      > People gather together (compile) what appear to be the best sounding
      > spiritual quotes. They put them in books and build New Age religions
      > around them - changing the authors like producers who make foods out of
      > the same basic ingredients, but then market them under different names.
      > This is what sometimes passes for a "God-Man" these days.
      >
      > Those are my thoughts.
      >
      > I remember, too, seeing statesmen crafting the most intoxicating
      > speeches based on what might sound the best. People are elected on that
      > platform and whole administrations come to power by choosing the best
      > words to serve the public. It's as if they know what the masses will
      > eat up.
      >
      > And what is said and what actually takes place and gets done are often
      > worlds apart. I think the other day Obama passed some budget bill that
      > pushed things ahead (to keep the government running) until September.
      >
      > "President Barack Obama on Tuesday [03/26/13] signed a stopgap spending
      > bill to keep the government running through the end of September.
      > [....]"
      >
      > [Based on: DIGEST article (Obama signs budget bill), p. A18, S.L.P.D.,
      > 03/27/13]
      >
      prometheus wrote:
      > Hello All,
      > I visited Eckankar's FaceBook
      > site and saw this quote:
      >
      > The Holy Spirit often works
      > through professional medical
      > people to help us out when
      > we're in trouble. After all, all
      > healing comes from Divine
      > Spirit, no matter what It chooses
      > as Its instrument.
      >
      —Harold Klemp
      > The Language of Soul
      >
      > My question is this. If "all
      > healing comes from Divine
      > Spirit" where does the non-
      > healing of disease, especially
      > for Eckists, come from? The
      > Kal? But isn't the KAL, also,
      > the ECK in the lower planes?
      >
      > And, when a H.I. who is
      > a Health Care Practitioner
      > (and obvious "instrument"
      > of Divine Spirit) Does Not
      > Heal someone who's fault
      > is that? Is it Divine Spirit's
      > fault? Or, is it the H.I.'s
      > fault? Neither! In Eckankar
      > it's always the victim's fault
      > due to karma... correct!
      > Therefore regardless of how
      > this healing (or not) thing
      > is perceived it's always a win/
      > win for Klemp. HK takes NO
      > responsibility for anything
      > and never has. Therefore,
      > what good is he. That holding
      > tank for Karma excuse only
      > explains away his illnesses!
      >
      > Prometheus
      >
      > p.s. I could be wrong. Maybe
      > it's a quantum organic paradox
      > thingie that only a 14th initiate
      > could know? LOLROFLMAO!
    • robokidnx
      That won t happen, of course, because HK is a fearful little old recluse and conman who couldn t take the heat of the kitchen. Klemp and his cult are
      Message 2 of 4 , Mar 28, 2013
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        "That won't happen, of course, because HK is a fearful little
        old recluse and conman who couldn't take the heat of the kitchen."

        Klemp and his cult are "irrelevant." That golden tongued wisdom stings just a little bit but no matter how much he backpedals these days, he knows it's true.
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