Re: HK's Idioms of Wisdom
- Hello Etznab and All,
Yes, it seems Klemp
has a very generic receipt
for his "spiritual" food
he spoon feeds to his
flock of chickens both
inside and outside of
the EK henhouse. In his
small world he's a shy
old, clever, but redundant,
Klemp never really addresses
present day problems or issues.
When reading Klemp's dribble
one doesn't see any context
involving real present-day life
situations. I thought one of the
"keys" to Eckankar was living
in the Present... the now!
HK wants to give the appearance
of staying neutral, but this is
a lazy and passive approach
which is, in essence, a sin of
omission. ECKists vote and are
very involved with issues and
what takes place in their countries.
This is life on earth and where
we learn our lessons and, then,
demonstrate what we have or
have not learned. And, most
EKists are for equality and human
rights and voted for and supported
Obama as did I. Eckists who
participate in ethical issues
are being proactive, positive
and concerned citizens. But
not Klemp. He's afraid to take
a position and say anything...
he's not only NOT a leader
he's not even capable of having
Imagine if the Leader of the
ECKankar Church had a press
conference and took a stand
FOR Gay marriage. Many more
people might take notice and
start to look into Eckankar because
they liked what they heard. If
people saw that Klemp wasn't
afraid of National publicity and
public scrutiny, then, what's to
fear from this strange little sect
of Sant Mat?
That won't happen, of course,
because HK is a fearful little
old recluse and conman who
couldn't take the heat of the
kitchen. That's why he steals
other people's receipts and has
others (vahanas) do the cooking
for him. Just as well. I've tasted
his food and the ingredients
were spoiled to begin with.
p.s. Here's something I saw on
the newsfeed: Remember that
Federal Ethics Investigation into
Michelle Bachmann's campaign
finances? Glenn Beck says it's a
plot by "radical Islam."
Now if we can just get Klemp
to show the ECK Membership
both his, and Eckankar's, finances!
> People gather together (compile) what appear to be the best sounding
> spiritual quotes. They put them in books and build New Age religions
> around them - changing the authors like producers who make foods out of
> the same basic ingredients, but then market them under different names.
> This is what sometimes passes for a "God-Man" these days.
> Those are my thoughts.
> I remember, too, seeing statesmen crafting the most intoxicating
> speeches based on what might sound the best. People are elected on that
> platform and whole administrations come to power by choosing the best
> words to serve the public. It's as if they know what the masses will
> eat up.
> And what is said and what actually takes place and gets done are often
> worlds apart. I think the other day Obama passed some budget bill that
> pushed things ahead (to keep the government running) until September.
> "President Barack Obama on Tuesday [03/26/13] signed a stopgap spending
> bill to keep the government running through the end of September.
> [Based on: DIGEST article (Obama signs budget bill), p. A18, S.L.P.D.,
> Hello All,Harold Klemp
> I visited Eckankar's FaceBook
> site and saw this quote:
> The Holy Spirit often works
> through professional medical
> people to help us out when
> we're in trouble. After all, all
> healing comes from Divine
> Spirit, no matter what It chooses
> as Its instrument.
> The Language of Soul
> My question is this. If "all
> healing comes from Divine
> Spirit" where does the non-
> healing of disease, especially
> for Eckists, come from? The
> Kal? But isn't the KAL, also,
> the ECK in the lower planes?
> And, when a H.I. who is
> a Health Care Practitioner
> (and obvious "instrument"
> of Divine Spirit) Does Not
> Heal someone who's fault
> is that? Is it Divine Spirit's
> fault? Or, is it the H.I.'s
> fault? Neither! In Eckankar
> it's always the victim's fault
> due to karma... correct!
> Therefore regardless of how
> this healing (or not) thing
> is perceived it's always a win/
> win for Klemp. HK takes NO
> responsibility for anything
> and never has. Therefore,
> what good is he. That holding
> tank for Karma excuse only
> explains away his illnesses!
> p.s. I could be wrong. Maybe
> it's a quantum organic paradox
> thingie that only a 14th initiate
> could know? LOLROFLMAO!
- "That won't happen, of course, because HK is a fearful little
old recluse and conman who couldn't take the heat of the kitchen."
Klemp and his cult are "irrelevant." That golden tongued wisdom stings just a little bit but no matter how much he backpedals these days, he knows it's true.