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Re: More on Mulvin-EckankarTruth Digest #6189

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello Ainavaira, First, allow me to chuckle about the comment from you, a member of The Jerry Mulvin Fan Club, about him delivering on out-of-body
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      Hello Ainavaira,
      First, allow me to chuckle
      about the comment from
      you, a member of "The
      Jerry Mulvin Fan Club,"
      about him "delivering" on
      out-of-body experiences.

      Sorry, but it was just too
      funny. Not that Jerry couldn't
      do it, but because it's soooo
      basic and passé! Any EK 2nd
      Initiate can do the out-of-body
      thingie and I was doing it with
      ease prior to Eckankar... but,
      please, no worship is needed
      nor wanted.

      Hmmmm. I wonder why Jerry
      was arrested on that parole
      violation this past July 2012?

      He might have to serve out
      his entire sentence if he
      doesn't behave.

      But, he is Level 1 (low risk)
      and this is why he doesn't
      show up as a registered sex
      offender in the data bases.

      Only the local cops are notified
      on the release of a Level 1
      (low risk) sex offender, but
      Level 2 (intermediate
      risk) and Level 3 (high risk)
      will show up on the state
      and National Sex Offender
      Registry data base.

      The post you're commenting
      on was not mine. I simply
      copied it from the Internet.
      It comes via the anti-Eckankar
      site called EckankarTruth
      and Sharon is the owner of
      that site.

      As far as "odd fellows
      having unusual skills"
      it sounds like you've
      overlooked the byproducts
      of higher consciousness
      such as morality, ethics,
      empathy, and right/positive

      And, 'we all' are our own
      "teachers." No personality
      worship, or otherwise,
      needed. You seem to be
      living in a delusional world
      where you have given
      someone else (Jerry) authority
      over your spiritual awareness.

      But, yes, you are an apologist
      for Jerry Mulvin. He's nobody
      special, except, as a sex offender.
      Some get caught, but most don't!

      His short stay in Eckankar isn't
      that significant, except for the
      fact that he did help to scam
      people in order to get the con/
      fraud off the ground for the
      liar and plagiarist Paul Twitchell.

      BTW- I said "short stay in
      Eckankar" because Jerry left
      after Darwin Gross was booted
      and was probably only a member
      for no more than 15 years. Most
      of us were members for 30 plus

      And, any "spiritual" crap that
      Mulvin regurgitates is of no
      consequence. We could call
      him a cultist, but why bother.
      It's all New Age mumbo jumbo
      with quantum this or that and
      some organic metaphysics
      thrown in for good measure.

      And, if some people want
      to call Mulvin's delusional
      outdated rantings as cultish,
      fine. So is Scientology and
      LDS and they, too, were
      created by liars, narcissists,
      and a sexual predator as well!


      ajnavajra wrote:
      Whatever the truth is about the past incident, even if it is true, one thing is
      also true: Mulvin can deliver the "out of body" experience. There is much more
      to the man than your simple broad brush tarring him. Your bringing in some TV
      sting operation is emotion porn and is not relevant to the particulars.

      So guess what? the world is not as simple as you might hope, and sometimes odd
      fellows have unusual skills.

      If your teachers have to be "perfect" good luck getting any real world

      And I am no cult excuser. Never belonged to Eck. Mulvin does not run a "cult"

      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
      <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
      > The Facts: Jerry Mulvin was listed as a class 2 felon on the Arizona
      > Sex Offenders Registry website. See below for copies of my
      > correspondence about why he's not there anymore.
      > According to court transcripts, he didn't pass the lie detector test
      > until *after* he admitted fingering a baby under its diaper when he
      > was a teenager. After this, Mulvin became a "high initiate" under the
      > omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent Paul Twitchell - and I
      > understand that many thought he would possibly be appointed LEM after
      > Twitch's death, according to eckists who were there at the time.
      > Of course, as we all know, <rolling my eyes here> the Twitchster knew
      > he only had a short time to accomplish his high holey fricken
      > "mission" and Klemp has explained he was pretty desperate back then,
      > had to make do with what he could find, so he just high-initiated
      > whoever was willing to pay the membership "donation".
      > Over at a.r.e., Grundie (aka "Cher") said something like so what, he
      > was only downloading kiddie porn. No biggie!!
      > Sorry, but I think downloading kiddie porn *IS* a biggie. How many of
      > them stop at just downloading pictures? And what about the innocent
      > children in the photos?
      > Have you seen the recent NBC Dateline shows about all those innocent
      > characters who'd only been downloading kiddie porn until they showed
      > up at that house NBC had set up, where FOR THE FIRST TIME they went a
      > bit further than just downloading photos, and FOR THE FIRST TIME
      > arranged to meet someone they thought was a child in person? And some
      > of them even brought booze, drugs, and condoms? See: http://www.
      > msnbc.msn.com/id/9927253/
      > Sometimes you cult apologists make me want to puke.
      > Anyway who's interested can find more details in the a.r.e. archives
      > at Google:
      > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search
      > Mulvin's ex-wife first posted this information in early 2001, I
      > believe. I don't know exactly when he was no longer listed as a Class
      > 2 Felon at the Arizona Sex Offenders Registry, but at some point I
      > noticed and wrote to ask why. See below.
      > Gee, maybe if you can track him down, since you're so fricken
      > concerned about him, you can offer to let him move in with you, maybe
      > babysit for your kids? Maybe you've got some things on *your*
      > computer he might be interested in, since I'm sure he keeps his own
      > computer cleaned up now.
      > Hmmmm....I wonder, what led up to the police finding the dirty
      > CHILDREN's photos on his computer to begin with?
      > Sharon
      > --- MWeede@ wrote:
      > > To: Sharon <brighttigress@>
      > > Subject: Re: DPS Web Site
      > > From: MWeede@
      > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:21:24 -0700
      > >
      > > His risk level was dropped to a level lower than a 2
      > > or 3 by the local
      > > police agency.
      > >
      > >
      > > There is never enough time, unless you're serving
      > > it.
      > > Malcolm Forbes (1919-1990)
      > >
      > >
      > > Michael Weede
      > > Arizona Department of Public Safety
      > > 602 223-2878
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Sharon <brighttigress@>
      > > 07/18/2005 08:18 AM
      > >
      > >
      > > To: MWeede@
      > > cc:
      > > Subject: Re: DPS Web Site
      > >
      > >
      > > Thank you for your prompt response!
      > >
      > > What I'm wondering, though, is why Jerry Mulvin was
      > > listed at the website awhile back, but isn't
      > > anymore.
      > > Are offenders removed from the site, for example, if
      > > their probation or parole time ends?
      > >
      > > I don't want to spend a lot of time writing, but I'm
      > > wondering if he was removed from your site because
      > > current cult members may have complained about the
      > > "publicity".
      > >
      > > Thank you!
      > >
      > > Sharon Comstock
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- MWeede@ wrote:
      > >
      > > > Sharon,
      > > >
      > > > Per current law, we are only permitted to release
      > > > information on Level 2
      > > > and 2 offenders. The local police agency having
      > > > jurisdiction determines
      > > > an offenders risk level. It is not uncommon for a
      > > > local agency to either
      > > > raise or lower an offenders risk level.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > There is never enough time, unless you're serving
      > > > it.
      > > > Malcolm Forbes (1919-1990)
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Michael Weede
      > > > Arizona Department of Public Safety
      > > > 602 223-2878
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