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Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Digest Number 2002

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  • Russ Rodnick
    riiighty o:) ________________________________ From: Sharon To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19,
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 19, 2012
      riiighty o:)

      From: Sharon <brighttigress@...>
      To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 12:52 PM
      Subject: Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Digest Number 2002
      Hmmmm.....just a thought here, aren't those metal detectors possibly interfering with karma or something?  What if Klemp was responsible for offing a bunch of people in his last life - maybe as a Gestapo guard shoving people in the ovens - and what if the situation's reversed and all those seminar attendees are those people who Klemp massacred??

      --- On Fri, 10/19/12, EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      From: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Digest Number 2002
      To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, October 19, 2012, 10:06 AM

      There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. 2012 ECK Worldwide Seminar Oct. 19-21        From: prometheus_973 Message ________________________________________________________________________ 1. 2012 ECK Worldwide Seminar Oct. 19-21     Posted by: "prometheus_973" prometheus_973@... prometheus_973     Date: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:30 am ((PDT)) Yes, it's this weekend, and is billed as "A Year Of Consecration." Here's some of the PR used to sucker in a handful of newbies and to re-inspire and placate the old timers: "Greater awareness of the Light and Sound of God, a knowingness that guides you through rough waters, and insight into the ways of Spirit in your daily life-- these are the gifts of the Mahanta's love." ME: Once again, Klemp takes credit for every aspect of an ECKist's daily "spiritual" life. This is teaching codependence versus Self Mastery! Why? This is the insidious part. Klemp needs three things: Power; Money; Adoration. "Each aspect of the 2012 ECK Worldwide Seminar offers a golden opportunity to strengthen your bond with the Mahanta." ME: If an H.I. can actually meet up with the Mahanta on the Higher "Inner Planes," for a one-on-one Q&A etc., What is the point in wasting time and money by traveling to the EK Worldwide Seminar on the Lowest (Physical) Plane and seeing HK from a distance, in an audience, and listening to a dumbed-down talk where he shares other peoples' embellished stories? The whole point, for Klemp, is the adoration. And it gets him out of the house and breaks up his hum-drum life as a little known "prophet" of a minor cult. Yes, it's a pep rally too, and is a "re-educational" tool that keeps people hooked/ bound (brainwashed), and it brings in some money. "Rededicate your heart to your highest spiritual purpose at this seminar. Enjoy a rich mix of fellowship, inspiration, and upliftment--highlighted by Sri Harold Klemp's Saturday- evening talk. Then watch yourself grow!" ME: These comments about the "heart" is somewhat confusing when one thinks about the Astral "Heart (4th) Chakra." After all, Eckankar uses the Tisra Til or the Third Eye in order to leave the body and this is the 6th Astral Chakra. On the other hand if we're relating the "heart" to Love, as Jesus taught, this is another problem. According to Paul Twitchell, who was the founder of Eckankar and only self-created Mahanta, Jesus was merely a 2nd Initiate in Eckankar. Plus, a 2nd Initiate 2,000 years ago is the equivalent of what level of initiation today? How many times has Klemp made these same promises to H.I.s? Yet, have they really grown? I don't see it and they don't see it! That's why many ECKists have to close their minds when they close their eyes. They have to trick and delude themselves into believing and that's the quiet desperation that Klemp is counting on. What's even funnier, and sadder, is that ECKists will probably have to go through Metal Detectors, again, in order to see Klemp in the main hall on Saturday evening. What's with that? It never happened prior to 9/11, but now the Metal Detectors and handbag search has become a tradition of fear mongering. How can Klemp be what he claims to be... a supernatural being higher and more powerful than the God of other religions, but is fearful and can't practice detachment. What is Klemp subconsciously teaching ECKists? Really! He's making them more insecure and is causing them to close their eyes and minds even tighter in order to deny the Light/ Truth. This is a key piece to the puzzle and of the Mahanta fraud. The Metal Detectors, bag searches, and Security Guards on Saturday Evening are staring ECKists in the face, yet, they rationalize and refuse to see that Klemp is afraid! Prometheus Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous/ <*> Your email settings:     Digest Email  | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous/join     (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email:     EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-normal@yahoogroups.com     EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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