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Re: Eckankar and Intergraded Quantum Wellness Therapies

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  • robokidnx
    All you have to do to see eckankar as it really is, is peel back the the thin plastic seal that the public is allowed to see. In true biblical tradition,
    Message 1 of 5 , Jul 18, 2012
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      All you have to do to see eckankar as it really is, is peel back the the thin plastic seal that the public is allowed to see. In true biblical tradition, eckankar is a Soddom and Gemorah of new age wackage behind that cultivated, airbrushed exterior.

      Actually, anything and everything New Age goes and Klemp owns it.

      He's basically the New Age equivalent of a christian megachurch preacher. Yep. It's that crazy.

      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, Janice Pfeiffer <jepfeiffer@...> wrote:
      > Doesn't Eckankar get something from these people that it promotes? I am thinking that is their angle. 
      > --- On Wed, 7/18/12, prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
      > From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
      > Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Eckankar and Intergraded Quantum Wellness Therapies
      > To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 6:16 PM
      > Hello Russ and All,
      > These people have a
      > number of different
      > promotions for holistic
      > health. I have no idea
      > what Carol's involvement
      > is.
      > Reiki is one promotion,
      > meditation another,
      > along with acupuncture
      > and others. There's one
      > method offered that is
      > similar to Therapeutic
      > Touch (the non-touch
      > method) except they add
      > the overly used New Age
      > term "Quantum" which
      > is supposed to be what
      > this technique will develop
      > into in the future. Thus,
      > one will be able to do long
      > distance (LD) healing with
      > this method.
      > I even saw the term "Avatar
      > Masters," but it didn't have
      > much info.
      > Nowadays it seems that
      > Klemp has approved of
      > these Holistic Healing
      > methods for businesses.
      > Therefore, if people have
      > the "credentials," an office,
      > advertise, and charge money
      > there's no EK Karma.
      > If it's "New Age" it's okay
      > with Klemp regardless of
      > the snake oil. But, can one
      > blame Klemp for approving
      > of healing methods that
      > have little to no scientific
      > evidence associated with
      > them and are difficult
      > to prove or replicate? Yes!
      > He's perpetuating a fraud!
      > This is the same sort of
      > misguided imaginative
      > religious belief that he
      > uses to influence and
      > misdirect his flock. HK
      > is like the EK or New
      > Age version of O'Reilly
      > on Fox news.
      > It is interesting that so
      > many Eckists seem to have
      > their consciousness scattered
      > with a hodgepodge of New
      > Age thought, practices,
      > and remedies such as Rune
      > stones, crystals, homeopathy,
      > etc., etc.
      > On another note:
      > It's rather funny, however,
      > that EKies aren't ever supposed
      > to use incense when they
      > meditate/contemplate.
      > How does that differ from
      > smelling food already cooked,
      > or being cooked, or those
      > scented oil sticks? Incense
      > is so New Age too! Maybe
      > Klemp's problem with incense
      > is that it's also associated
      > with the Hippie Movement
      > and the smoking of marijuana
      > in order to hide the smell
      > of Weed. Instead, back in
      > the day, Klemp was going
      > Wacky, not on tobaccy, but
      > on swallowing Twitchell's
      > snake oil.
      > Prometheus
      > Russ Rodnick wrote:
      > I know Carol. I'm sure she is totally
      > sincere in what she claims. I didn't
      > know she was into long distance
      > healing. She used a machine in the
      > past. Something to do with electrical
      > frequencies. Have you heard of or
      > read "A Cure for All Cancers"? It's
      > along the lines of those methods,
      > I believe.
      > Does it really work? Perhaps, in some
      > cases. One's state of belief is a huge
      > factor in healing, I believe.
      > Good Day!
      > prometheus wrote:
      > Hello All.
      > I was recently alerted that
      > Eckankar sent out a "Tips
      > for ECK Study" for July 2012
      > and that the woman mentioned
      > below had an article in this
      > ECK pub. I went on another
      > related site and saw Carol
      > Choclatt's (sic?) name! She's
      > an H.I. and EK spokesperson
      > from Texas but was listed
      > on this Wellness site.
      > It kind of makes one wonder.
      > When this woman states that
      > she helps or heals people from
      > long distance is that like Reiki
      > or what the Canadian con artist
      > Adam Dreamhealer does?
      > http://www.onlinewellnessnetwork.com/details.asp?name=Adelheid_Reinhardt_Practic\
      > e_For_Integrated_Therapies&wpid=191
      > But doesn't this New Age group/
      > business conflict with Eckankar
      > beliefs? What's Klemp up to, or
      > doesn't he know about her business?
      > Oh, btw, the article was about,
      > The Masters' gazes which provide
      > more... of harmony, of knowingness,
      > of patience for unknown situations
      > and of awareness of oneself as a
      > happy Soul.
      > Prometheus
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