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Klemp: Still Arrogant, Aloof, and Judgmental After All These Years

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  • prometheus_973
    I was looking at a copy of the June, 2012 The Mystic World of EKankar that was emailed to me recently... [thanks] and I noticed how irreverent the irrelevant
    Message 1 of 3 , May 18, 2012
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      I was looking at a copy
      of the June, 2012 The
      Mystic World of EKankar
      that was emailed to me
      recently... [thanks] and
      I noticed how irreverent
      the irrelevant little Harry
      Klemp came across.

      His front page article is
      titled "That's Irrelevant."
      In the article he makes
      a few judgment calls by
      assuming a woman whom
      he imagined as being an
      authoritarian school teacher.
      Obviously Klemp has some
      issues with teachers, but
      then again he went to an
      all boys Lutheran school.

      Oh, BTW, there's a pic of
      both Harry and Joan on the
      front page. Will Joan finally
      get promoted to a 12th this
      year? Maybe this will be her
      year! If HK retires he'll still
      have a spy at the ESC!

      Anyway, the story is about
      locked car doors and a dead
      car battery. Klemp states that
      while having a conversation
      with this woman that she was
      giving him a scorching look
      and that he felt he wasn't
      measuring up. Klemp kept
      guessing at what her problem
      was with the doors and when
      he gave her an answer she
      didn't like she'd say, "That's
      irrelevant!"

      Too bad she didn't tell Kelmp
      that he's "irrelevant!" LOL!
      Actually, maybe (indirectly)
      she was telling him that!
      No wonder HK got mad
      and decided to get even by
      attacking her in this members
      only article and behind her
      back!

      So, Klemp is making fun of
      this woman and is editing the
      story so that he looks like an
      innocent victim and she looks
      like an agent of the Kal. It's
      actually vice versa! Plus, you
      have to understand that Klemp
      is as much, if not more so, of
      a liar that Twitchell was.

      Still, by reading these articles
      closely one can see Klemp's
      lack of consciousness. Put
      it this way... WWJD if he had
      met this woman? Feel the love
      emanating from Jesus and her
      being receptive to the change
      in consciousness? But, instead,
      we have the weasel Klemp judging
      her and feeding her self-doubt,
      fears, anger and negativity with
      his own!

      Klemp then states that cold
      weather is hard on batteries
      and she replies that she's
      moving but Not to Florida
      and Not to Arizona. I found
      this interesting since these
      two states have been in the
      news lately as being rather
      racist and anti-consumer.
      Apparently Klemp is clueless
      about these details and
      attempts to belittle her to
      ECKists with these comments:
      "Not, not! Poor wandering Soul,
      so tied up in knots."

      But really, is it any wonder
      that this woman was acting
      as if she was a "negative" battery...
      she's female! Klemp (assuming
      he's male and not a eunuch)
      is a "positive" battery according
      to Twitchell's Eckankar. I wonder,
      What polarity do eunuch's have?
      does it matter? It's all B.S.!

      Apparently a "new car battery"
      named ECKankar is what she
      really needs to transform her
      life and take her to higher
      realms of being, "And that
      would be relevant!" Yeah, right!
      Been there, done that, bought
      the tee shirt and coffee mug!

      Klemp's such a self-righteous
      asshole!

      Prometheus
    • robokidnx
      Klemp, like the cult itself, has been on a slow humiliating decline for some years now. While it s obvious that eckankar took a turn toward Crazytown a long
      Message 2 of 3 , May 19, 2012
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        Klemp, like the cult itself, has been on a slow humiliating decline for some years now. While it's obvious that eckankar took a turn toward Crazytown a long time ago, the poor followers will be the last to figure it out. If Klemp's ongoing example to us is any indication, self-reflection and self-insight aren't common eckie traits. It works from the top down starting with the thin-skinned gawd-man. Far too many bizarre personal fictions are at play in eckankar for there to be any other conclusion.
      • prometheus_973
        More from the June, 2012 The Mystic World: Vahana on Wheels I saw that in Ghana that they have graphics of HK and of the other fake EK Masters at bus-stop
        Message 3 of 3 , May 20, 2012
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          More from the June,
          2012 The Mystic World:

          "Vahana on Wheels"

          I saw that in Ghana that
          they have graphics of
          HK and of the other fake
          EK Masters at bus-stop
          sheds and they have 3
          minivans with the graphics
          on them as well. They
          claim that people will
          follow the vans around
          in order to read all of the
          propaganda. There's also
          a "HU A Love Song To God"
          graphic with all of that
          spiel.

          Anyway, I thought "Why
          haven't Eckists ever done
          that, here, in the states?"
          We've had graphics here
          long before they've had
          them in Ghana. Then, I
          realized why it was. Part
          of the reason is shame.
          Eckists, for the most part,
          are shameful and embarrassed
          of their nutty New Age
          Religion and of the name
          ECKankar! They get very
          defensive and, then, they
          get indignant and stand-
          offish and this effect creates
          a care-less passive attitude.
          No, it's not detachment or
          even non-attachment it's
          passivity and negativity.
          I remember, once, where
          Klemp used the Bible quote
          of "throwing pearls (of wisdom)
          to swine" (seekers without
          ears to hear, or those who
          are more discerning).

          The one unchanging characteristic
          that I've noticed about Klemp,
          over the years, is his lack of
          Empathy. Really! Read some
          of the comments he's made
          early on in his writings back
          in the '80s and read his comments
          that he makes about people
          who rub him the wrong way
          today. He's never changed,
          evolved, nor grown spiritually!

          The string that connects it
          all together is Klemp's limited
          view of other possibilities
          (he's very one dimensional),
          has a lack of insight, and is
          somewhat cold hearted and
          definitely narcissistic. All of
          this, together, results in his
          lack of empathy for others.
          HK is more "a master of deception,"
          even, unto himself! It's sad,
          but more so to those he's
          misled and has kept trapped
          via doubt and fear.

          I wonder, How many old
          timers signed on to become
          members of a religion?
          I never did!

          Klemp is the one who created
          "Eckankar Religion of the
          Light and Sound of God."
          And then after recreating
          Eckankar from "a Spiritual
          Path" into an actual religion
          he, then, took it towards
          a more familiar "Christian"
          based Religion with an
          undemocratic/authoritarian
          Hierarchy.

          In other words, Klemp remade
          EKankar to look like his former
          Lutheran church... which he
          came to disrespect along with
          his father.

          That was something wasn't
          it? HK didn't attend his father's
          funeral in October, 1971 because
          he wanted to be at the Worldwide.
          He showed no empathy for his
          mother nor to his brothers and
          sister.

          I read one story where HK wanted
          to be at the '71 EK World Wide
          to experience and support first-
          hand the crowning of Darwin.
          But why couldn't HK have
          ekperienced this on the "INNER?"
          Very strange!

          I read another version where
          Klemp thought that Tom
          Flamma's shotgun "prophecy"
          meant that little Harry might
          be crowned instead of Darwin.
          This was the real reason little
          Harry had forsaken his mother
          and her grieving at the time of
          his father's death. I hope he's
          still happily rationalizing with
          that decision. But, apparently
          Klemp didn't know that the "fix"
          was in and that Gail was doing
          her CYA routine with the EK
          Board to get Darwin elected.
          Funny, but Darwin gave another
          version where he was promoted
          to a Ninth Initiate, by Paul, in
          June, 1971 ("From Heaven to the
          Prairie"). Interesting that Klemp
          lives in Eden Prairie, MN.

          Next, I saw another June
          2012 Mystic World article
          titled "I Trust the ECK."

          This Canadian is saying
          that she went through
          the whole day with this
          affirmation in her mind
          (it was a "spiritual exercise")
          "and things worked out
          wonderfully." But, not
          everything was crossed
          off her "list," but that was
          okay (she rationalized)
          she "knew that was exactly
          as it was supposed to be."

          And, sometimes when she's
          under stress she steps back
          puts her life on cruise control
          and asks the Inner Master
          "What do you need me to do?"

          Isn't it shameful that Klemp
          is teaching ECKists codependency
          rather than Self-Mastery!
          Why not ask the real INNER
          MASTER, SOUL, "What do you
          need me to do now?"

          IMO this Inner Master promo/
          story is being printed in the
          Mystic World in order to keep
          HK's sheep inline and brain-
          washed. However, it also shows
          me that Klemp needs his shy,
          gullible, trusting and very
          delusional followers more than
          they actually need him! This
          story is simply being used to
          promote and reenforce this
          KALi codependent mindset...
          HK's more the Black Magician
          than Paul or Darwin ever were!

          Really, why can't Klemp let
          his H.I.s go? Those with the
          7th Initiation should be set
          free of the outer Eckankar!
          They shouldn't have to be
          members of a worldly religion
          bound by dogma, guidelines,
          and rules! This is simply more
          proof that Klemp is running
          a religious scam. Where's the
          Spiritual Freedom and Self-
          Mastery that were once promised,
          in the beginning, and prior
          to Klemp's reign?

          "New from Sri Harold, Spiritual
          Wisdom on Dreams"

          Yep! Klemp has another waste-
          of-time redundant book out
          there that's making him 50%
          on royalties. Not only that,
          but it's another book added
          to his long list of accomplishments.
          Klemp has to live up to his
          PR that ECKists are paying for.
          This way he can boast (indirectly
          of course) of being a renown
          "author/writer." Yes, little Harry
          is very prideful of his accomplishments.
          Funny, that he just couldn't
          resist getting into Who's Who
          just as Twitchell had done
          back in 1935. HK's King of
          the Hill!

          Anyway, back to the book.
          Here's part of his promo:

          "If people actually did, the
          study of dreams would be
          much more prominent in
          our society than it is today."

          Can't that be said of anything?

          Once, people studied the
          bumps on their heads and
          used this unscientific method
          to imagine all sorts of things.
          It was a very detailed and in-
          depth study and many "experts"
          became involved and sold
          this belief to a gullible/trusting
          public. This, too, became very
          "prominent in society" at the
          time just as seances once were.
          Let's face it, scammers will
          sell anything. PT Barnum said,
          "There's a sucker born every
          second." Remember? Carter's
          Little Liver Pills. LOL!

          So, Klemp is selling his New
          Age snake oil just like Brad
          Steiger sold hundreds of books
          with his crap! Big Foot, UFOs,
          and Paul Twitchell anyone?

          Prometheus

          Prometheus wrote:
          I was looking at a copy
          of the June, 2012 The
          Mystic World of EKankar
          that was emailed to me
          recently... [thanks] and
          I noticed how irreverent
          the irrelevant little Harry
          Klemp came across.

          HK's front page article is
          titled "That's Irrelevant."
          In the article he makes
          a few judgment calls and
          assumes ("imagines") that
          a woman whom he's having
          a conversation with is an
          "authoritarian school teacher."
          Obviously Klemp has some
          issues with teachers and/or
          women, but then again he
          went to an all boys Lutheran
          school and, thus, has some
          continuing psychological
          issues, as well as, arrested
          social development.

          Oh, BTW, there's a pic of
          both Harry and Joan on the
          front page. Will Joan finally
          get promoted to a 12th this
          year? Maybe this will be her
          year! If HK retires he'll still
          have a spy at the ESC!

          Anyway, the story is about
          locked car doors and a dead
          car battery. Klemp states that
          while having a conversation
          with this woman that she was
          giving him a scorching look
          and that he felt he wasn't
          measuring up. Klemp kept
          guessing at what her problem
          was with the doors and when
          he gave her an answer she
          didn't like she'd say, "That's
          irrelevant!"

          Too bad she didn't tell Kelmp
          that he's "irrelevant!" LOL!
          Actually, maybe (indirectly)
          she was telling him that!
          No wonder HK got mad
          and decided to get even by
          attacking her in this members
          only article and behind her
          back!

          So, Klemp is making fun of
          this woman and is editing the
          story so that he looks like an
          innocent victim and she looks
          like an agent of the Kal. It's
          actually vice versa! Plus, you
          have to understand that Klemp
          is as much, if not more so, of
          a liar that Twitchell was.

          Still, by reading these articles
          closely one can see Klemp's
          lack of consciousness. Put
          it this way... WWJD if he had
          met this woman? Feel the love
          emanating from Jesus and her
          being receptive to the change
          in consciousness? But, instead,
          we have the weasel Klemp judging
          her and feeding her self-doubt,
          fears, anger and negativity with
          his own!

          Klemp then states that cold
          weather is hard on batteries
          and she replies that she's
          moving but Not to Florida
          and Not to Arizona. I found
          this interesting since these
          two states have been in the
          news lately as being rather
          racist and anti-consumer.
          Apparently Klemp is clueless
          about these details and
          attempts to belittle her to
          ECKists with these comments:
          "Not, not! Poor wandering Soul,
          so tied up in knots."

          But really, is it any wonder
          that this woman was acting
          as if she was a "negative" battery...
          she's female! Klemp (assuming
          he's male and not a eunuch)
          is a "positive" battery according
          to Twitchell's Eckankar. I wonder,
          What polarity do eunuch's have?
          does it matter? It's all B.S.!

          Apparently a "new car battery"
          named ECKankar is what she
          really needs to transform her
          life and take her to higher
          realms of being, "And that
          would be relevant!" Yeah, right!
          Been there, done that, bought
          the tee shirt and coffee mug!

          Klemp's such a self-righteous
          asshole!

          Prometheus
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