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Re: The So-Called and Imagined Advantages of ECK Membership

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  • Diana Stanley
    I remember I had a friend in nutrition and investigated the ingreademts of sunasu and said it was a bad formular and many people would nt be able to tolorate
    Message 1 of 9 , Oct 30, 2011
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      I remember I had a friend in nutrition and investigated the ingreademts of sunasu and said it was a bad formular and many people would'nt be able to tolorate it. Remember "Herbs the magid healers" by Paul. I think they were trying to ty it into sunasu.
      Diana
      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hello Diana and All,
      > Gail was as much the
      > opportunist and scammer
      > as Twitchell. Twit had
      > his thing (Eckankar) and
      > Gail wanted hers (Sunasu).
      >
      > However, I remember
      > reading where Paul told
      > ECKists not to be selling
      > Sunasu at ECK functions,
      > but that changed when
      > Darwin took over. Klemp
      > had to reenforce PT's rule
      > and expand it to include
      > all items because ECKists
      > tend to sell their New Age
      > products to other ECKists
      > and to even rely upon this
      > narrow market in order
      > to be successful...........
      > Klemp, later, told these
      > EK entrepreneurs that if
      > this was the case, then,
      > their products probably
      > weren't all that good to
      > begin with.
      >
      > The irony:
      > This is exactly like it is
      > when selling Eckankar!
      > It's not that good of a
      > product and, therefore,
      > it has a narrow market
      > and a small following.
      >
      > I believe that Gail sold
      > her Sunasu Company to
      > her sister, who lives in
      > California, and that it is
      > still sold to some extent
      > but is not a very big seller
      > nor is it distributed too
      > widely.
      >
      > Prometheus
      >
      > dianastanley wrote:
      > I remember, when Darwin
      > was the eck, that Gail had
      > a seminar about SunaSu,
      > that was a vitamin and
      > protien supplement her
      > an Paul had created, She
      > talked Darwin into appearing
      > and saying how great it
      > was. It was supposed to
      > be for the public. As you
      > can imagine when the
      > eckist heard about it we
      > all showed up!!! By the
      > way I recieved it free
      > every month, so I could
      > keep painting for them
      > i guess. I did'nt take it
      > as it made me sick. This
      > is the first time I have
      > revealed my dark little
      > secret. Now I feel better.
      > Are they still selling it
      > by the way?
      > Diana
      >
      > "Non" <eckchains@> wrote:
      > >
      > > This reminds me of the current bombardment of Mormon TV ads. All of these
      > persons in the ads try to convince you of how wonderful and normal their lives
      > are and the last statement they say is "...and I am Mormon". Ekists will do the
      > same thing at first, a wolf in sheep's clothing, hiding their bizarre beliefs.
      > >
      > > As far as ekankar curing all that ails you? No, in fact It often seems to me
      > that there is more of a sense of additional suffering when things don't go well,
      > especially health problems. It's kind of like what happened with Steve Jobs. At
      > one point in his life he believed that he didn't need to shower because of his
      > vegan diet and spiritual beliefs even though his coworkers had filed complaints.
      > His beliefs may have opened up a wealth of creativity, but I think he was
      > already a creative guy and very intelligent. This did not make him the most
      > compassionate of persons, from what I understand about his Biography, even
      > though he was supposedly a Zen Buddhist. He was also prone to a similar MAGIKAL
      > thinking that ekists fall for. Steve Jobs tried psychics, some kind of macro
      > vegan diet, acupuncture, etc., when it is quite possible that he was fortunate
      > to have had the type of pancreatic cancer that could have been cured with
      > surgery, but he didn't like the idea of someone cutting his body open.
      > >
      > > My experience with some ekists though, is that when push comes to shove, they
      > go with what their doctors tell them they should do, especially if their spouse
      > has anything to say about it. It's "as if" they have a split personality. That
      > can't feel very good.
      > >
      > > It's all just MAGIKAL thinking that ekankar and klemp do anything, but may in
      > fact cause a form of suffering by keeping them in a state of delusional
      > self-contempt and anxiety, as they can't really live up to expectations that are
      > always out of reach. Without true compassion, life is just kind of miserable
      > IMHO. To err is Human and life is just not that easy, even for the richest guy
      > in the cemetery.
      > >
      > > noneckster ; )
      > >
      > > --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
      > <prometheus_973@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Would anybody like to
      > > > comment upon PT's and,
      > > > now, Klemp's snake-oil
      > > > remedies for all that ail
      > > > you?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ******************************
      > > > Advanced Spiritual Study as a
      > > > Next Step on the Road Home
      > > > to God
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Experience the miracle of
      > > > spiritual growth A true spiritual
      > > > teaching makes a link between
      > > > God and you. And it provides
      > > > a guide to help make your
      > > > journey as easy and direct
      > > > as possible.
      > > >
      > > > Eckankar has an inner and
      > > > outer living guide. He has
      > > > made the journey into the
      > > > heart of God but has returned
      > > > to help us on our way to Self-
      > > > Realization and, ultimately,
      > > > God-Realization. This guide
      > > > is the Mahanta, the Living
      > > > ECK Master.
      > > >
      > > > The next step on your
      > > > spiritual journey can be
      > > > linking up with him through
      > > > membership in Eckankar.
      > > > You will then experience
      > > > the awesome miracle of
      > > > advanced spiritual growth—
      > > > a life of joy, meaning, and
      > > > creativity.
      > > >
      > > > Who are the members of Eckankar?
      > > >
      > > > Members of Eckankar (ECKists)
      > > > come from all walks of life.
      > > > ECKists are homemakers,
      > > > businesspeople, and retirees.
      > > > They are professionals, educators,
      > > > scientists, and farmers. They
      > > > come from all age-groups, a
      > > > ll races and nationalities, and
      > > > all religious backgrounds.
      > > >
      > > > Like most people, ECKists
      > > > have families, careers, and
      > > > daily struggles. They live
      > > > a life of joyful participation
      > > > in the mainstream of society.
      > > >
      > > > ECKists know they're responsible
      > > > for their own experiences in
      > > > life. They know tomorrow is
      > > > the result of today's thoughts,
      > > > feelings, and actions. They
      > > > also know that giving love
      > > > and service to their family
      > > > and community is one way
      > > > to increase their understanding
      > > > of God's love.
      > > >
      > > > More about membership in
      > > > Eckankar:
      > > >
      > > > Spiritual Benefits—Reach
      > > > your highest spiritual potential.
      > > > See the bigger picture of life.
      > > > Explore the many facets of
      > > > divine truth.
      > > >
      > > > Discourses—Take the next
      > > > step on your spiritual journey.
      > > > Study at home or in classes.
      > > >
      > > > Initiations—Climb the stairway
      > > > to spiritual freedom through
      > > > the ECK initiations—the direct
      > > > link between Soul and Divine
      > > > Spirit.
      > > >
      > > > ECK Activities—Worship services,
      > > > introductory presentations,
      > > > book discussion classes, seminars,
      > > > spiritual fellowship.
      > > >
      > > > Membership Facts—Individual
      > > > and family memberships, publications,
      > > > youth study.
      > > >
      > > > ***************************************
      > > >
      > > > BTW- I found this info on:
      > > > http://www.eckankar.org/Membership/index.html
      > > > listed on a FB site:
      > > >
      > > > https://www.facebook.com/EckankarArizona
      >
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