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  • prometheus_973
    Hello Diane and All, It sounds like Paul was a control freak and trying to manipulate you by saying you shouldn t wear boots. Paul was stuck in the past and
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 5, 2011
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      Hello Diane and All,
      It sounds like Paul
      was a control freak
      and trying to manipulate
      you by saying you
      shouldn't wear boots.

      Paul was stuck in the
      past and was looking
      at old symbols and
      not fashion. Cowboy
      boots, too, don't have
      a militaristic "vibe"
      or looks. The problem
      was in the eye of the
      beholder, PT, and his
      paranoid vibe from
      being an old conservative
      country bumpkin from
      Kentucky. Was that a
      turn off for many people?

      Yes, today there is no
      "real" Freedom in Eckankar.
      Guidelines need to be
      followed and the hierarchy
      enforces this much of
      the time, but many H.I.s
      are passive/aggressive
      toward these Guidelines.
      No free lunch or initiation
      either! EK Initiations are
      directly related to the
      annual paid membership,
      otherwise, they are lost
      on the Physical Plane!

      Prometheus




      dianastanley wrote:

      I got in Eckankar in 1971,
      most of us young people
      were still dressing like
      hippies.

      Paul tried to get us to
      tone it down and not
      make a scene with the
      way we dressed.

      Of course no one listened
      to him. There was quite
      an age difference between
      us. He definatly wanted
      up to stop wearing boots
      as he said they gave off
      a military vibe. My were
      leather with finge on top
      so it didn't look military
      to me so I kept them.

      compared to today we
      had a lot of freedom then.
      I road with Rodger Dubin
      and some other guys. He
      had Sugmad Sailers painted
      on his beatup folkswagon
      van. We sure had a lot of
      fun.

      Diana STanley
    • etznab@aol.com
      As long as they re not wearing big muddy boots :) ... From: prometheus_973 To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 6, 2011
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        As long as they're not wearing "big muddy boots" :)

        -----Original Message-----
        From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
        To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
        <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2011 1:52 am
        Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Hi Guys

         
        Hello Diane and All,
        It sounds like Paul
        was a control freak
        and trying to manipulate
        you by saying you
        shouldn't wear boots.

        Paul was stuck in the
        past and was looking
        at old symbols and
        not fashion. Cowboy
        boots, too, don't have
        a militaristic "vibe"
        or looks. The problem
        was in the eye of the
        beholder, PT, and his
        paranoid vibe from
        being an old conservative
        country bumpkin from
        Kentucky. Was that a
        turn off for many people?

        Yes, today there is no
        "real" Freedom in Eckankar.
        Guidelines need to be
        followed and the hierarchy
        enforces this much of
        the time, but many H.I.s
        are passive/aggressive
        toward these Guidelines.
        No free lunch or initiation
        either! EK Initiations are
        directly related to the
        annual paid membership,
        otherwise, they are lost
        on the Physical Plane!

        Prometheus

        dianastanley wrote:

        I got in Eckankar in 1971,
        most of us young people
        were still dressing like
        hippies.

        Paul tried to get us to
        tone it down and not
        make a scene with the
        way we dressed.

        Of course no one listened
        to him. There was quite
        an age difference between
        us. He definatly wanted
        up to stop wearing boots
        as he said they gave off
        a military vibe. My were
        leather with finge on top
        so it didn't look military
        to me so I kept them.

        compared to today we
        had a lot of freedom then.
        I road with Rodger Dubin
        and some other guys. He
        had Sugmad Sailers painted
        on his beatup folkswagon
        van. We sure had a lot of
        fun.

        Diana STanley
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