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  • dianastanley43
    I got in Eckankar in 1971, most of us young people were still dressing like hippies. Paul tried to get us to tone it down and not make a scene with the way we
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 1, 2011
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      I got in Eckankar in 1971, most of us young people were still dressing like hippies. Paul tried to get us to tone it down and not make a scene with the way we dressed. Of course no one listened to him.There was quite an age difference between us. He definatly wanted up to stop wearing boots as he said they gave off a military vibe. My were leather with finge on top so it didn't look military to me so I kept them.
      compared to today we had a lot of freedom then. I road with Rodger Dubin and someother guys. He had Sugmad Sailers painted on his beatup folkswagon van. We sure had a lot of fun.
      Diana STanley
    • prometheus_973
      Hello Diane and All, It sounds like Paul was a control freak and trying to manipulate you by saying you shouldn t wear boots. Paul was stuck in the past and
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 5, 2011
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        Hello Diane and All,
        It sounds like Paul
        was a control freak
        and trying to manipulate
        you by saying you
        shouldn't wear boots.

        Paul was stuck in the
        past and was looking
        at old symbols and
        not fashion. Cowboy
        boots, too, don't have
        a militaristic "vibe"
        or looks. The problem
        was in the eye of the
        beholder, PT, and his
        paranoid vibe from
        being an old conservative
        country bumpkin from
        Kentucky. Was that a
        turn off for many people?

        Yes, today there is no
        "real" Freedom in Eckankar.
        Guidelines need to be
        followed and the hierarchy
        enforces this much of
        the time, but many H.I.s
        are passive/aggressive
        toward these Guidelines.
        No free lunch or initiation
        either! EK Initiations are
        directly related to the
        annual paid membership,
        otherwise, they are lost
        on the Physical Plane!

        Prometheus




        dianastanley wrote:

        I got in Eckankar in 1971,
        most of us young people
        were still dressing like
        hippies.

        Paul tried to get us to
        tone it down and not
        make a scene with the
        way we dressed.

        Of course no one listened
        to him. There was quite
        an age difference between
        us. He definatly wanted
        up to stop wearing boots
        as he said they gave off
        a military vibe. My were
        leather with finge on top
        so it didn't look military
        to me so I kept them.

        compared to today we
        had a lot of freedom then.
        I road with Rodger Dubin
        and some other guys. He
        had Sugmad Sailers painted
        on his beatup folkswagon
        van. We sure had a lot of
        fun.

        Diana STanley
      • etznab@aol.com
        As long as they re not wearing big muddy boots :) ... From: prometheus_973 To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
        Message 3 of 3 , Aug 6, 2011
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          As long as they're not wearing "big muddy boots" :)

          -----Original Message-----
          From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
          To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
          <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2011 1:52 am
          Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Hi Guys

           
          Hello Diane and All,
          It sounds like Paul
          was a control freak
          and trying to manipulate
          you by saying you
          shouldn't wear boots.

          Paul was stuck in the
          past and was looking
          at old symbols and
          not fashion. Cowboy
          boots, too, don't have
          a militaristic "vibe"
          or looks. The problem
          was in the eye of the
          beholder, PT, and his
          paranoid vibe from
          being an old conservative
          country bumpkin from
          Kentucky. Was that a
          turn off for many people?

          Yes, today there is no
          "real" Freedom in Eckankar.
          Guidelines need to be
          followed and the hierarchy
          enforces this much of
          the time, but many H.I.s
          are passive/aggressive
          toward these Guidelines.
          No free lunch or initiation
          either! EK Initiations are
          directly related to the
          annual paid membership,
          otherwise, they are lost
          on the Physical Plane!

          Prometheus

          dianastanley wrote:

          I got in Eckankar in 1971,
          most of us young people
          were still dressing like
          hippies.

          Paul tried to get us to
          tone it down and not
          make a scene with the
          way we dressed.

          Of course no one listened
          to him. There was quite
          an age difference between
          us. He definatly wanted
          up to stop wearing boots
          as he said they gave off
          a military vibe. My were
          leather with finge on top
          so it didn't look military
          to me so I kept them.

          compared to today we
          had a lot of freedom then.
          I road with Rodger Dubin
          and some other guys. He
          had Sugmad Sailers painted
          on his beatup folkswagon
          van. We sure had a lot of
          fun.

          Diana STanley
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