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  • dianastanley43
    ... Diana
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 3, 2011
      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "iam999freedom" <iam999freedom@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Diana,
      > Thought the phrase you wrote, "I have come to the realization that if you are sitting in your living room you don't need a path or person give instructions on how to get to your living room!" is so wonderful! It takes most of us many experiences, books, etc. to get to that realization.
      >
      > I've also found it interesting when you said Darwin wanted to screw any woman he could. This verifies what I was told by a Eck friend when Darwin got kicked out.
      >
      > BYW thanks for your sharing. It's really helping to open up some of the repressed junk that I still have.
      >
      > Freedom
      >
      >
      > --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "dianastanley43" <dianastanley43@> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hello Diana,
      > > > Thanks for coming here and sharing
      > > > and clearing up some things so that
      > > > we can come to understand the "why"
      > > > and "how" we were tricked, by yet
      > > > another religious scam (ECKankar).
      > > > Hopefully, it will never happen again.
      > > > You are helping to validate "why"
      > > > many Eckists feel uneasy with their
      > > > religion and some of "how" that came
      > > > to happen.
      > > >
      > > > Your experiences and observations
      > > > are additions to the true "unfiltered"
      > > > history of Eckankar!
      > > >
      > > > Yes, I've always known that Gail was
      > > > no innocent by-stander. Without her
      > > > Eckankar would not exist today.
      > > >
      > > > BTW- Was the female EK Master Kata
      > > > Daki supposed to be in tribute to Paul's
      > > > dead sister Kay-Dee? Or, was Kata Daki
      > > > a false replica of Gail to placate her?
      > > >
      > > > Like I surmised, Darwin planned on
      > > > staying on as the Mahanta while he
      > > > had Klemp writing books and running
      > > > the org as the LEM. Darwin screwed
      > > > up by not proclaiming (at the 1981
      > > > EWW Seminar) that he would be staying
      > > > on as the Mahanta while Klemp remained
      > > > the LEM and President of Eckankar.
      > > >
      > > > Actually, Darwin never should have given
      > > > up the presidency since, according to the
      > > > EK by-laws, this is where the power was.
      > > > But, had Darwin declared himself the 14th
      > > > Plane Mahanta how, then, could a 12th
      > > > Plane LEM and even lower plane Board
      > > > members boot him? They wouldn't have
      > > > been able to remove him as the "spiritual"
      > > > leader of Eckankar according to scripture
      > > > and the definitions PT established for each
      > > > ... 12th Plane LEM... 14th Plane Mahanta.
      > > >
      > > > Darwin believed that his handshake with
      > > > Klemp and Klemp's promises really meant
      > > > something. Darwin should have followed
      > > > his instincts more since he "hesitated" to
      > > > meet with Klemp in that Sound Proof Dark
      > > > Room where Klemp worked (the photo dept.)
      > > > at the ESC to discuss the transition.
      > > >
      > > > Anyway, it just goes to show how much
      > > > we needed to believe. Those long-time
      > > > H.I.s who are still current members must
      > > > be really needy, egocentric, and nuts!
      > > >
      > > > BTW- Don Ginn left California a year or
      > > > two ago and now works at the ESC. Did
      > > > you say his wife, or former wife, left Eckankar
      > > > during Darwin's reign?
      > > >
      > > > Prometheus
      > > >
      > > > dianastanley wrote:
      > > > This is the first time I have told about
      > > > my experiences. I quess it was time.
      > > >
      > > > I found this site by accident and decided
      > > > why not! If it helps clear up somethings
      > > > for people and maybe valadates what
      > > > people were feeling.
      > > >
      > > > I was forunate to have many friends
      > > > at the time who were going through
      > > > the the same thing as I was and we
      > > > told each other what we knew about
      > > > the goings on with Darwin and Harold.
      > > >
      > > > I went from seeing him accepting the
      > > > Mastership at seminar, which we all
      > > > were enthusiastic about. After all Gail,
      > > > the Mahantas wife introduced him.
      > > > to seeing him completely deteriate
      > > > into an addict, screwing every woman
      > > > he could and buying lavish gifts for
      > > > himself with Eck money.
      > > >
      > > > I remember there was a question
      > > > at the time if he was an Eck Master
      > > > or the Mahanta. He cleared it up
      > > > real quick that he was the Mahanta.
      > > >
      > > > We all said OK. We believed everything
      > > > that was told to us no matter how
      > > > strange. At that time Pauls energy
      > > > could still be felt.
      > > >
      > > > I remember thinking Darwin was
      > > > an extention of Paul. I would do
      > > > anything to keep the dream alive
      > > > an till it became a nightmare.
      > > >
      > > > Diana
      > > >
      > > Don Guin's wife left Ecankar a long time ago. He was my rep at one time and sold my prints for me. Then he was appointed office manager by Darwin and dumped me.
      > >
      > > They took Darwin to court and the judgement was that he could not use any Names or quotes that belong to Eckankar. He started his own path for a while. I met a couple of girls in Vegas who belonged to it.
      > > I don't remember what he called it and I don't know when it ended.
      > > I don't know the details of the trial but someone who was there told me he was drunk and stumbled down the stairs. Why was I not surprized. Paul just made up the female Eckmaster it was'nt based on anyone.
      > > I have studied many paths since leaving. At first I wanted to replace Eckankar. I looked for paths that had a guru or master as that was familar to me. I have come to the realization that if you are sitting in your living room you don't need a path or person give instructions on how to get to your living room!
      > > Diana
      > >
      > It has been good for me too. I finally am telling stuff I sat on for over thirty yrs. In talking to you guys I am recalling stuff I thougt was forgotten. I hate to see people have to go through what I did,now it seems even worse. Seeking spirituality can be a winding road. Now I think spirtuality should be thrown out with the dish water.
      Diana
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