Re: Klemp's "Holy Fire" Nonsense
- The Single Eye of God is a key symbol of the Masonic Order. You can contemplate this image every time you handle a US dollar bill!
Wastn't Paul Twitchell a member of this order? Perhaps, HK also?
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
> Here's an excerpt from Klemp's
> "The Holy Fire of ECK, Book 2"
> that was advertised in The H.I.
> Letter of 12/2010:
> "As far as steps in consciousness,
> the first thing to remember is that
> you are where you belong."
> ME: That's obvious isn't it? Really!
> Isn't this true for anyone and everyone
> whether ECKist or not? It's called
> karma or fate! Klemp is doing more
> than playing with words, but why?
> It's to placate and pacify his H.I.s.
> and get them to accept his continued
> slow-down of initiations as well as
> the glass ceiling of the 7th initiation.
> "If you were anyplace other than
> where you belonged, you would
> be very much out of balance. And
> if you are very much out of balance,
> you are where you don't belong.
> And chances are you are not where
> you think you are."
> ME: Kind of wordy isn't it? Actually,
> according to ECKankar dogma, this
> above premise is wrong. Let's say
> that an ECKist was promoted to the
> 5th, 6th, or 7th initiation and this
> caused him or her to become out
> of balance. The Mahanta isn't supposed
> to make mistakes, but in this case
> it would be Klemp's fault and not
> the chela's. The chela wasn't ready
> and that wasn't their fault. If a person
> gets a pink slip that means they're
> Or, maybe there's another view. When
> one is a member of a cult and a false
> teaching like ECKankar are they where
> they belong even though they appear
> to be "balanced?" Look at the imbalance
> that Phil Morimitsu and Nancy Pang
> experienced on the flight to Taiwan
> while on their Mahanta's mission!
> "One of the Higher Initiates had an
> experience of seeing the single eye.
> The single eye, as I've mentioned
> before, comes to those of you who
> have a good chance of realizing
> your spiritual goal in this lifetime.
> The single eye is the Eye of God.
> When it comes, accept its presence
> humbly because it is a special gift.
> Not all Higher Initiates will see it.
> IF you haven't seen it yet, don't worry.
> There's plenty of time."
> ME: So, what is this "spiritual goal
> in this lifetime?" The 8th, 9th, 12th?
> This is a really "special gift" that only
> special Highly advanced Initiates can
> experience right!
> Yes, there's a lifetime to wait for
> this special gift but in the meantime
> there's that 7th Initiation. But what if
> you've had the 7th since 1987 then
> what? Oh, wait! What if you've been
> a RESA too? What's the next carrot?
> The 8th! Or, is it this Single "Eye of
> God" bullshit that, apparently, only
> comes to very important and advanced
> H.I.s in order to realize their "spiritual
> But wait! I had this Single Eye of God
> experience several dozen of times!
> I would close my eyes and see it there.
> I was a 2nd Initiate when I experienced
> this. Imagine that! It's true! I will have
> to say that I was searching for the Truth
> and when I discovered that all religions
> were bullshit (especially ECKankar) then
> I guess that I realized my "spiritual goals,"
> or at least it was the beginning for the
> Real discovery.
> BTW- Twitchell wrote about this too
> and here we have Klemp repeating it
> as though he's the original author.
> The truth is that others (non-Eckists)
> see this Single "Eye of God," or whatever,
> too. Twitchell, probably got this info
> from other sources. I'm thinking that
> I saw it mentioned in "The Path of the
> Masters" that Twit plagiarized.
> So, since I saw this same "Eye" as
> a 2nd Initiate and Klemp states
> that this is a "special (H.I.) gift"
> then HK must be a false prophet!
> He implies that this vision is only
> for the more spiritually evolved
> Higher Initiates, but it's clear that
> Klemp doesn't really know what he's
> talking about and is a liar. Klemp
> really screwed up because this same
> phenomena is experienced by many
> people and isn't as rare of an occurrence
> as he thinks! I'm sure that ECKists
> have noticed this same Big Single
> Eye occurrence when they, too,
> were lower initiates, or maybe
> they've forgotten.
> Anyway, it's all foolishness.