Re: Are Eckists absent minded or 'spaced out'?
- Hello Sfarthi,
I've seen this same phenomena happen
in Transcendental Meditation (TM).
However, in many cases the 20 minute
time for meditation was deliberately
extended due to people taking "advanced"
courses and from taking the Siddha
"Program." All of these additional courses
extended the meditations to one
hour and beyond. However, regular
TMers who attended special weekend
retreats also became lethargic, spaced
out, and lost their motivation due to
extended meditation time. I saw this
happen with TM "Governors" as well.
[FYI: A "Governor" rules part of an Astral
Region, and this is mentioned in PT's
works and I think in Klemp's first Lexicon
which was copied from PT's Dictionary.]
What happens is that ECKists and others
retreat into a fantasy world which they
mistake for a higher reality. It's much
the same with drug users except this
extended meditation produces a more
natural high using the mind's ability to
produce chemicals for the desired results.
Unfortunately, these results also produce
delusional thinking along with a generalized
imbalance of behaviour. In truth, these
people are depressed with their lives and
and the extended meditation/contemplation
times are used as escape mechanisms.
The same can be applied to those who
sleep more than 8 hours per day... while
those who sleep 6 or less hours are caught
up in the world... too much IMO.
Balance is the key to almost everything.
Since your SO is a 5th or 6th or whatever
she has been in Eckankar for at least 20-
30 years and should "Know" better. This
is just more proof that Klemp (her God/
Mahanta) has No clue as to what his H.I.s
are doing or else he would have given her
"inner guidance" (a nudge?) on her "outer
I do understand how extending the
contemplation can happen. It used
to take me 10-20 minutes just to
settle my/the mind. Now, all I have
to do is to sit quietly and close my
eyes and I'm there. This also requires
only a few minutes to "recharge" etc.
and I'm never "zoned or spaced out"
afterwards. As Soul I've done this on
my own and for my Self and have
been taught/guided by Spirit/Soul.
Followers need religion. The Old World
and New Age scammers, like Klemp,
will always be there with their special
invisible Mahanta/God like powers etc.
[as well as the other (clerical) spokespeople/
interpreters for God's "message"] and
with their heavenly promises via God/
However, people need to take responsibility
for their lives and if something doesn't
feel or seem right then it probably isn't!
The fault isn't with people, per se, it's
with religion and those (politicians and
clerics) who manipulate others via guilt,
shame, and distortions of truth. The key
is to keep the masses dumbed down
and to intimidate them and to keep them
silent from asking too many questions
or from questioning "authority." But,
whose "authority" does one question?
My SO is a long time Eckist, I think level 5 or 6 or something. She used to 'contemplate' 30 minutes a day and at some point that increased to 60 minutes and now it seems like she has trouble fully reconnecting with the 'real' world. Loses things frequently and seems confused at times and is not the same person she used to be. Can that have anything to do with these 'altered' mental states that Eckists pursue?