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Re: Ajna?

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello Etznab, What I found interesting is that I ve seen chakras presented differently in the EK teachings... even in HK s older Lexicon. Tom Flamma mentioned
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 11, 2010
      Hello Etznab,
      What I found interesting is that I've
      seen chakras presented differently
      in the EK teachings... even in HK's
      older Lexicon. Tom Flamma mentioned
      the 12 chakras once, but in Vedanta
      there are 7. The Anja system has how
      many chakras listed?

      I found it interesting that PT has
      once again confused himself and
      his followers with mentioning 7-12
      chakras while promoting the lower
      brow or third-eye chakra. Why not
      the highest chakra? And, even today
      after all of these years under Klemp
      ECKists are told to place attention
      upon the "Third-Eye" (6th chakra)
      versus the "Crown" chakra when HUing.

      As to the confusion Paul created...
      Well, ECKists tend to overlook this
      by turning a blind eye to it. This is
      where "faith" comes in. Don't ask
      too many questions unless you can
      deal with the painful truth. Most can't
      and, therefore, don't want to know.
      it's difficult facing truth when one's
      imagination can create a safe and
      inspiring "spiritual reality." Why should
      a religionist leave the "comfort zone"
      that their religion has created?


      etznab wrote:
      > Researching the word "Ajna".
      > I didn't find the word in my
      > Sanskrit dictionary link, so
      > I'm looking at some Internet
      > links instead.
      > The word Ajna means "command",
      > in the sense of the Guru's command
      > (spiritual guidance). The Tantric
      > Ajna or Brow chakra has two petals,
      > is associated with the tattwa of
      > Manas or Mind (not to be confused
      > with the Manas-Chakra), which is
      > beyond even the most subtle elements
      > (although still part of embodied
      > existence). It is said to be white
      > in colour. More recently in Western
      > occult and New Age thought the Ajna
      > chakra has been identified with the
      > "third eye" (eye of psychic vision),
      > and other such concepts not found in
      > the original Tantrika system.
      > http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Ajna.htm
      > This is the Eckankar Dictionary
      > AJNA - The third eye or tisra Til;
      > the spiritual eye or door through
      > which the spiritual travelers may
      > pass between the lower and higher
      > worlds on the journey into the God
      > realms.
      > Based on: Eckankar Dictionary - 1973
      > Another site for Ajna contained this:
      > Ajna is also known as the third eye,
      > the eye of Shiva or the eye of intu-
      > ition, which gazes inward rather than
      > outward. It is often called divya
      > chakshu, the divine eye, or jnana
      > chakshu, the eye of wisdom, because
      > it is through this center that the
      > spiritual aspirant receives revelation,
      > and insight into the underlying nature
      > of existence. It is the level at which
      > direct mind-to-mind communication takes
      > place, and the doorway through which
      > one enters the psychic, or astral
      > dimension.
      > http://www.yogabound.com/yoga/cha_sixth_ajna.htm
      > Those two words divya chakshu and
      > jnana chakshu might be helpful. I
      > think the Pali for "eye" is "cakkhu"
      > There's a Sanskrit word for "eye"
      > spelled aksa, or aksi, I think.
      > 5 (mwd) akSa 4 n. [only ifc. (f.
      > %{I}) for %{akSi}] , the eye.
      > http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/
      > 3 (cap) akSi n. eye.
      > 4 (cap) akSI f. eye.
      > http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/
      > Looking at divya chakshu and jnana
      > chakshu I see the words for "divine"
      > and "mind". However, Sanskrit "jana"
      > suggests primal beginnings & birth.
      > Not the same word as jhana, perhaps.
      > "Jhana" appears to have something to
      > do with "sound", "tinkle" & "jingle".
      > The Sanskrit dictionary I looked at
      > had jJAna as the word for "knowing",
      > or "knowledge".
      > I've seen a lot of different defin-
      > itions for jhana. Like absorbtion,
      > or the idea of fixing the mind on
      > something. Where they get the idea
      > of "command" for ajna is beyond me.
      > I saw the words AjJa for "command".
      > 12 (mwd) AjJA 1 %{-jAnAti} (Impv. 2.
      > pl. %{-jAnIta} ; perf. %{-jajJau} ;
      > p. %{jAna4t}) to mind , perceive ,
      > notice , understand RV. i , 94 , 8 ;
      > 156 , 3 S3Br. Ta1n2d2yaBr. ; (cf. %
      > {a4n-AjAnat}): Caus. %{-jJApayati} ,
      > %{-te} (Inf. %{-jJaptum} R. iv , 40 ,
      > 8) to order , command , direct MBh.
      > &c. ; to assure R. vi , 103 , 10.
      > [133,2]
      > 13 (mwd) AjJA 2 f. order, command Mn.
      > x, 56 MBh. &c. ; authority, unlimited
      > power Ba1lar.; N. of the tenth lunar
      > mansion VarBr2.; permission (neg. %
      > {anAjJayA} instr. ind. without permis-
      > sion of (gen.) Mn. ix , 199).
      > Also the Tamil:
      > 15 (otl) Ajnjnai 1. order, command
      > direction; 2. a cakra in the body,
      > described as a two-petalled lotus
      > situated between the two eyebrows,
      > one of a1r6a1ta1ram , q.v.
      > 20 (otl) Akjnai order, command (TLS)
      > http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/
      > So I'm not sure what "ajna" means
      > exactly, or where the word derived
      > from. Maybe from "Ajan". Not sure.
      > For Tisra Til ("third eye") "til"
      > appears to derive from "tilak".
      > The Tilak spot is consciously placed
      > at the center of the forehead between
      > the eyebrows. This location is signif-
      > icant being the location of ajna chakra,
      > which is also known as the third eye,
      > the eye of wisdom (jnana chakshu) or
      > the Divine eye (divya chakshu). It is
      > the aim of devout Hindus and yogis to
      > open or awaken ajna chakra by constant
      > meditation. So, this is significant
      > because at ajna chakra is where con-
      > scious and unconscious minds unify and
      > the element of duality merges into the
      > one universal entity.
      > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080809102550AAgaIDy
      > Etznab
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