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ECK and All Religions Are Composed of False Beliefs

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  • prometheus_973
    Yes, it s true! Eckankar, too, has a Garden of Eden belief. Look up Polarians in Klemp s first Lexicon. And, like the Mormons, Eckankar has a magic
    Message 1 of 2 , Jun 26, 2010
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      Yes, it's true! Eckankar, too, has a "Garden
      of Eden" belief. Look up "Polarians" in Klemp's
      first Lexicon. And, like the Mormons, Eckankar
      has a magic underwear belief... to protect them
      from EMF!

      Here's some interesting info that shows how
      aspects of Christianity were created via using
      (little known) previous beliefs... just as Eckankar
      was created, by Twitchell, via the use previous
      religious beliefs like Sant Mat.

      The Christian Bible was written within a time
      line of 200 years and was pre-scientific. Thus,
      they didn't have Carbon Dating or use scientific
      methods. The Old Testament was written in an
      even more primitive time. Yet, these Bible stories
      are all taken literally and on "faith."

      Klemp talks about Faith too. But, let's get back
      to that EK Lexicon of his and the Polarians and
      THE GARDEN OF EDEN MYTH and of Adom (versus
      Adam) and Ede (versus Eve). Is that EDE(n) like
      in Eden? Twitch was clever with his word and
      letter addition, omission, and substitution wasn't
      he?


      http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html


      Prometheus
    • prometheus_973
      The 14th Plane Mahanta (Klemp) is supposed to have had a Virgin Birth just as (4th, Mental Plane) Mithra, Jesus and Krishna. Twitchell (Peddar Zaskq) claims to
      Message 2 of 2 , Jul 2, 2010
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        The 14th Plane Mahanta (Klemp) is supposed
        to have had a Virgin Birth just as (4th, Mental
        Plane) Mithra, Jesus and Krishna.

        Twitchell (Peddar Zaskq) claims to have had
        a Virgin Birth, thus, making him the sole
        Mahanta of Eckankar.

        This Virgin Birth Requirement verified in
        Eckankar's First Holy Book (1970) The Shariyat-
        Ki-Sugmad Book 1.

        In the Index of the Combined Shariyats 1&2,
        on page 504, it states that info concerning
        the "birth of," the "Mahanta" is found on page
        111.

        On page 111 (of the Combined Shariyats 1&2)
        it states that,

        "The Mahanta is always born near or on
        a large body of water... The ECK enters
        into the womb of a virgin, the queen of
        heaven."


        However, the term "Mahanta" was never used,
        by Twitchell, prior to his monthly Jan. 1, 1969
        "The Wisdom Notes." Yet, Twitchell claimed
        to be in training for the LEM/Mahanta position
        as early as 1951 with Rebazar Tarzs (also a
        former Mahanta). Eckankar was created
        in 1965, but Twitchell never spoke of the
        "Mahanta" until January 1969.

        So, was Twitchell exaggerating and twisting
        facts about the existence of a Mahanta as
        well as his birth? What's true and what's a
        lie? However, the Virgin Birth Myth is part
        of Eckankar's dogma as is The Garden of
        Eden Myth. (pgs 54-55, Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad
        Book One).

        Also, it should be noted that Harold Klemp
        is the Second Born to his mother. Thus,
        according to the Eckankar Holy Book One
        (pg. 111) Klemp Cannot be the Mahanta.
        And, the fact that he has claimed to be the
        Mahanta shows that he's a deceitful two-
        faced (Kal) liar.

        What's an ECKist to do?

        The Mahanta title, stories, and power were
        first created by Twitchell in 1969 and all that
        is written about an ancient linage is a lie.

        All that Klemp has written about "the Mahanta"
        is a lie as well. And, there's more proof that
        IF there was "a Mahanta" it was ONLY Twitchell.

        Really though, if ECKists somehow do believe
        PT's original lies/myth about the "Mahanta"
        always existing (in this Kali Yuga) then why do
        they believe that Klemp is the Mahanta when
        it states that he's supposed to have had a Virgin
        Birth?

        Klemp, in the past, has mentioned his older
        brother, Dwayne, but not many ECKists ever
        pieced together this fact with the Virgin Birth
        requirement for the Mahanta. Those who have
        seen the contradiction have either had to live
        with it, leave Eckankar, or keep quiet about it.

        It is troubling, but if ECKists can rationalize
        what they have in regard to Initiations, Silence,
        and Surrender it doesn't take all that much more
        "faith" to rationalize and delude themselves further...
        for convenience sake.

        Eckankar is a convenient religion except for the
        "Service" requirement for promotion. That's a
        real pain in the ass, working with idiots, but
        it gives HK's followers something to feel good
        about as they wearily tread in place in their
        "spiritual" waters.

        BTW- This Mithra sounds a lot like the Mahanta
        doesn't he? However, the EK spin is that the
        Mahanta came first... before Mithra. Except,
        why wasn't the "Mahanta" ever mention prior
        to 1969? Why is there no written record of the
        Mahanta, where as, Mithra has a history?

        It's simple... the Mahanta was just another
        creation of the scammer Twitchell and Klemp
        continues to profit/prophet from the handed-
        down scam. But, as long as HK gives these
        weak-minded and needy people some hope
        and purpose in life (while distracting them
        with Initiation requirements and alleviating
        their fear of death) then he feels that he (as
        their "spiritual" leader) is doing them a favor.
        After all, that's what religion does for people!

        http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html

        Prometheus

        p.s. Just curious, but how many Kali Yugas
        have there been... in this universe?

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        ECK and All Religions Are Composed of False Beliefs

        Yes, it's true! Eckankar, too, has a "Garden
        of Eden" belief. Look up "Polarians" in Klemp's
        first Lexicon. And, like the Mormons, Eckankar
        has a magic underwear belief... to protect them
        from EMF!

        Here's some interesting info that shows how
        aspects of Christianity were created via using
        (little known) previous beliefs... just as Eckankar
        was created, by Twitchell, via the use previous
        religious beliefs like Sant Mat.

        The Christian Bible was written within a time
        line of 200 years and was pre-scientific. Thus,
        they didn't have Carbon Dating or use scientific
        methods. The Old Testament was written in an
        even more primitive time. Yet, these Bible stories
        are all taken literally and on "faith."

        Klemp talks about Faith too. But, let's get back
        to that EK Lexicon of his and the Polarians and
        THE GARDEN OF EDEN MYTH and of Adom (versus
        Adam) and Ede (versus Eve). Is that EDE(n) like
        in Eden? Twitch was clever with his word and
        letter addition, omission, and substitution wasn't
        he?


        http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html


        Prometheus
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