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OCT. 22nd - "ECK Spiritual New Year" & PT's 101st B-Day!

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello All, This is an updated/edited post. It also addresses whether or not Harry will announce that he has made Joan an ECK Master (she cannot become a LEM
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 23, 2009
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      Hello All,
      This is an updated/edited
      post. It also addresses
      whether or not Harry will
      announce that he has made
      Joan an ECK Master (she
      cannot become a LEM since
      she's a female. I wonder if
      that rule covers sex changes?
      Would a sex change to make
      her a male give her "positive"
      atoms?).

      BTW- Why didn't Eckankar
      celebrate (at the 2008 EWWS)
      what would have been Twitchell's
      100th Birthday on Oct. 22,
      2008? And why didn't Klemp
      mention Darwin's death at
      that same 2008 ECK World
      Wide Seminar?

      The following definition is
      found on pages 61-62 of
      Klemp's 1998 EK Lexicon:


      "ECK SPIRITUAL NEW YEAR.
      October 22, the birthdate
      of the modern-day founder
      of Eckankar, Paul Twitchell,
      is celebrated as the spiritual
      new year in ECK.

      Traditionally in the autumn,
      it signifies the high point or
      spiritual harvest in the year's
      cycle. This is the beginning
      of a new, higher cycle for the
      next year.

      Historically October 22 is the
      date the Living ECK Masters
      of the times receives the Rod
      of ECK Power and begins his
      spiritual duties."

      ******************************

      FYI- Klemp gives "1908" as
      Twitchell's birth year on the
      copyright page of the Combined
      Shariyats.

      BTW- Why does Klemp say that
      PT is the "Modern-Day Founder
      of Eckankar?" Isn't Eckankar an
      "ancient religion" that PT merely
      "introduced" to the United States
      and "Western World?" Or, is HK
      implying that Paul actually "found"
      Eckankar laying around (on the
      ground or under a rock?) and
      picked it up!


      Klemp gave the following as
      part of the definition for the
      "ECK Spiritual New Year:"

      "Traditionally in the autumn,
      it signifies the high point or
      spiritual harvest in the year's
      cycle. This is the beginning
      of a new, higher cycle for the
      next year."

      However, in farming/gardening
      terms, SPRING is the "beginning
      of a new cycle" of growth, especially,
      after a long hard Winter. Klemp
      seems confused since FALL
      symbolizes the end of the
      growing cycle with the harvest.
      Thus, this was a poor/twisted
      analogy.

      Klemp is doing a PT spin by
      "twisting the facts" in order
      to confuse people with distortions
      of the truth.

      Klemp continues with the B.S.
      by saying:

      "Historically October 22 is the
      date the Living ECK Masters
      of the times receives the Rod
      of ECK Power and begins his
      spiritual duties."

      It's quite a coincidence that
      the "Modern-Day Founder"
      of Eckankar (Twitchell) was
      born on the exact same day
      that the ROD of ECK POWER
      is "historically" passed! Amazing!

      However, why wasn't this the
      case with Klemp? Is this why
      Klemp doesn't give his birthdate?

      Really, if Klemp is all that he
      claims to be (as the Mahanta)
      and is a more advanced Soul
      than Twitchell.... Why wasn't
      HK, too, born on Oct. 22 as
      an announcement to the Modern
      Day world of a "new beginning"
      with a Modern Day Prophet
      who was born to "harvest"
      Souls?

      The truth is that Twitchell took
      material (dogma) from various
      religions, mostly Radhasoami,
      and altered it to fit-in with the
      Western "New Age" mind-set.
      And, PT, created the Rod of ECK
      Power as a birthday present to
      himself! For his EK spin to work,
      as an ancient lineage, he, also,
      had to create Rebazar, the Torchbearer,
      and later (1969) the Mahanta
      position... higher than any other
      "Master" including Kirpal Singh!

      However, much of this Radhasoami/
      Ruhani Satsang dogma is flawed!
      The "living master" concept, as
      well as, the "spiritual hierarchy"
      are negative lower plane concepts
      and are, thus, limiting via overseers
      who are never wrong and are never
      to be doubted. In Eckankar these
      "Masters" sometimes "throw rocks"
      at one another and make threats
      to those under them when they
      chose to leave the religion after
      their 2nd initiation! After all, this
      is why one is supposed to wait
      and study for two years before
      requesting the EK 2nd initiation.

      PT sought control by adding more
      limitations with a Dozen Initiations.
      However, this was counterproductive
      and is, thus, Not conducive to acquiring
      Spiritual Freedom and Self-Mastery
      in THIS LIFETIME.

      And, after all, How can Soul
      EQUAL Soul (as Eckankar claims)
      when Klemp has placed himself
      high above others and beyond
      reproach (like a Pope)! If Soul
      equaled Soul Eckankar would be
      a Democracy and the EK Board
      would have real voting power.
      The same goes for HK's RESAs
      and his 8th and 9th initiates!
      Equality in Eckankar is just
      another EK illusion when Klemp
      is the Top Dog and Life-Long
      Mahanta.

      The Bait and Switch and misdirection
      that Klemp preaches in his simple-
      minded one dimensional Seminar
      stories (that cause people to fall
      asleep and to second guess what
      he meant by filling-in the blanks
      with their imaginations) are intentional
      because when the message is too
      complex it creates more analytical
      thought. Critical thinking is (silently)
      forbidden in religions because followers
      are expected to use faith and not
      their minds. This is why "surrender"
      and "service" are promoted so much.

      Klemp has explained why his
      talks (topics) are simple and take
      different approaches according
      to the level of consciousness of
      the audience. This is the "Astral
      Library" ekplanation. Still, when
      this info is found, in the Astral
      Library, this means that the
      Vibratory Rate of the information/
      topics Klemp imparts to his
      audience Cannot Be Higher than
      the ASTRAL Plane or else it could
      Not remain in the Astral Library!
      Duh!

      Thus, it no wonder that Klemp's
      Seminar talks are dumbed-down
      since he's been taking these stories
      from the Astral Library and/or the
      second-hand distorted/embellished
      dreams of lower initiates for 28 years!

      And, early, this Sunday morning the
      Seminar Eckists will gather together
      for the HU Chant and focus upon their
      6th ASTRAL Chakra (the Tisra Til) while
      Not Directing the HU for good works
      (health, wealth, world peace, the economy,
      high initiations, etc.).

      Prometheus
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