The 09/2003 H.I. Letter - Another (revised) Look!
- In his Angry and Mean-spirited response
Klemp has overlooked THREE major points
in the EK Teachings.
1) The Principle of the Threes
2) The Law of Economy
3) The Golden Heart
HK mentioned (twice) that there were THREE
fill-ins or temporary postal clerks working
that infamous day when Joan visited the
Chanhassen Post Office! LOL! I took the
liberty of capitalizing some key words
in Klemp's biased second-hand account
of what Joan claims to have experienced.
My comments are meant to give other
perspectives (balance too) and to to address
those negative comments made by Harold
Klemp (spiritual leader of Eckankar) toward
a, Third, temporary (fill-in) postal clerk (and
non-ECKist) that Harold's wife, Joan, had
dealings with when she went to check on
When reading HK's comments ask yourself:
1) Why did Klemp find it necessary to even mention
this incident in the H.I. Letter?
2) Did the KAL attributes of Anger and Resentment
overcome both Joan and Harry?;
3) Why was HK so emotionally involved with this
4) Why was HK so unloving toward this "Third"
fill-in clerk (Soul)?
5) Why didn't 9th Initiate Joan "let go" of her anger
and frustrations and Not mention the incident to
Harold when she arrived home?
6) Why can't both Joan and the Mahanta (HK)
see the Principle of the Threes or the Law of
Economy at work and maintain the Golden Heart
toward this clerk and see that this was a KAL test...
that they both failed?
7) Why can't H.I.s and chelas see the fraud,
too, and realize that they have been duped?
It had to have been Joan's huge Elephant
sized Ego that blinded her to the real Truth.
After all, both joan and Harry were wrong and
of an Astral Consciousness for Not seeing the
significance of the THREE clerks nor for seeing
The (EK) Law of Economy at work, AND of not
seeing that the clerk was merely following
Postal Regulations (SOP)! Harold is more guilty
that Joan because he's supposed to be a 14th
Mahanta! Thus, HK's comments, here, is
absolute proof that he's No Master and that
he's a conman leading his blinded and brain-
***The H.I. Letter - September 2003
[This is the Front Page Article with more
of my comments (and caps) inserted]
"Joan went to the post office to conduct
some business. The THREE regular postal
clerks were on vacation, and THREE fill-ins
were in place. Joan asked one clerk, a SURLY
man who'd served her some weeks earlier
as a fill-in, to please check IF she had a package.
He THREW BACK a DARK LOOK. 'I'll need to
see some identification.' Joan returned
a puzzled look. Show an ID for a package
that might not be there?"
See! Klemp mentioned twice that there were
THREE clerks! Principle of the Threes anyone?
Now why was Joan "puzzled?" How difficult is
it to get your ID out? Maybe Joan isn't use to
having an underling giving her orders (she is
the wife of the man with the highest consciousness
on earth, and she's second in command at the
ECKankar Spiritual Center (ESC) regardless of
what Peter Skelsky (the President of ECKankar)
Shouldn't the Law of Economy and common
sense be applied here as well? Why would
the clerk take the time to look through dozens
of packages, and keep other customers waiting,
only to find out that the Joan forgot her ID?
Or, what if the package was for someone else
who had to present their own ID if the package
had a different address (the ESC) than on her
(Joan's) driver license? Don't all of us "normal
people" have to stand in line and show IDs?
"With all the SELF-IMPORTANCE of an UNCIVIL
servant, he said, `There are No Normal People
here today!' That explained everything. It'd been
a hard day all around. The difference between
them is that The Clerk Holds On To Things He
Feels Are Out Of Order, WHILE JOAN LETS THE
SLIGHTS OF OTHER PEOPLE GO. SHE DOESN'T
HANG ON TO A BAD ENCOUNTER with a person
who behaves in a BOORISH manner. She
SURRENDERS to the ECK." [My caps]
Not showing an ID is out-of-order!
I would, also, disagree with Harold
and say that the "difference" between
Joan and the temporary postal clerk
is that Joan is an 9th initiate in Eckankar,
and that she was WRONG not to think
that she should show her ID before the
clerk went to look for the package.
Also, I don't believe that Joan Does Not
hold onto what she perceives as "slights
of other people," or that "she doesn't hang
on to a bad encounter!" After all, how did
Harold even know of the incident, unless,
Joan gave him an ear full when she arrived
home! Besides, why does Joan even see this
as a slight? This is just a typical everyday
thing (reality) that we all face... as tests!
Isn't that the purpose for Soul being here
in the first place according to the EK teachings!
Joan was seeing the "red" of her own aura,
and the reflection of her own negative feelings
and Not that of the temporary clerk! And,
so was Harold! They both created and
Both seem to have very strong egos and
get very emotional when challenged by
a lesser valued Soul. And, Harold obviously
felt insulted and wronged via his wife. He,
too, became emotionally involved by making
these negative and unloving comments about
this clerk (Soul). Thus, HK's showed that he
can't help others (spiritually) when he's incapable
of helping himself! His words and teachings
have no real value... except in the imaginations
of his delusional followers! It's all pretending
"as if" until the REAL happens!
"The Golden-tongued Wisdom had spoken
in the clerk's own words: There are no normal
people here today.' He'd then said that he
couldn't issue a postal money ordera basic
post-office service. Joan, of course, persisted.
Another clerk was happy to sell her a money order."
I find that this is an abuse of the term "Golden-
Tongued Wisdom" since Harold is using it in
a vengeful way in order to slight this temporary
postal clerk. Besides, are Truth/God Seekers
"normal people?" I don't think so! Then again,
Klemp stated in this same H.I. Letter that ECKists
are "Superior Normal." Anyway, it could, also,
be that this temporary clerk was not trained
to do money orders, or that only one person
had this duty? Why am I able to see the obvious,
or the positive side of things and Harold and
Joan can't? Give the clerk the benefit of the
doubt for God's sake!
"Let the ECK, or the Mahanta, help carry
your frustrations. It's the key to happiness.
But how to accomplish that? The discipline
of remembering to surrender is part of one's
spiritual discipline. Yes, this sounds like no
answer at all, but it's the individual's responsibility
to remember. That's what consciousness is for."
What a load of Bullshit! How is surrendering
or becoming codependent upon a "Mahanta,"
teaching spiritual discipline and Self-Mastery?
It certainly isn't teaching self responsibility!
Perhaps we should look at it from another
perspective and understand that the test is
Not to remember to hand the problem off to
someone else, but is to take responsibility!
In almost all of Harold's writings I can see
that Klemp is not very empathetic
(understanding and loving) to other people.
"Let's add, too, that the postal clerk's IDEA
of SERVICE to people goes BEGGING. It's not
an example for an ECKist. Service in ECK
means being an agent for the Mahanta.
It requires respect for others."
Harold's not being very nice to this
THIRD temporary postal clerk is he?
Actually, the clerk was probably acting
on a higher level of consciousness than
Joan (a 9th initiate in Eckankar) and Harold
(a 14th initiate). After all, the clerk was
following the Law of Economy by asking
for Joan's ID before he went looking for
the packages. What if she had not had
her I.D. with her (as many people have done)
after he took the time to look for her package?
Isn't it just common sense to ask to see
the I.D. first? Where is Harold's common
sense? The Anger based emotions, in
defending Joan, from an imagined insult
has blinded the LEM/Mahanta (Harry Klemp)!
And, what happened to the Mahanta's
"respect" for this Soul? The KAL tricked
them both and they failed the "test!"
Isn't it interesting that Harold is also
throwing out the old "service" carrot as
well. Too bad that Harold's idea of service
cannot help him to be an agent for the
Sugmad versus the KAL! Actually, Klemp's
been an agent for the KAL from the beginning!
HK's a false Master... and more like a mini-
master or pseudo master! BTW- Let's take
another look at The Principle of the Threes!
Both Joan and Harold mentioned that there
were THREE clerks on duty and yet this
doesn't make them take a second look
at the whole experience (test)! What's
with that. Almost any well grounded and
well brain-washed ECKist "knows" when
this "Principle of the Threes" pops up!
It's one of those "signs" that ECKists look
for! Why was Joan and Harry so oblivious
to this? Maybe it's because they "know" it's
all B.S. and a con and only the lonely and
gullible and trusting believers (Chelas and
H.I.s) are subject to these restrictive laws,
principles, and guidelines of EK Dogma.
In other words - Do as I say and not as I do!
Thus, once again HK and JK talk the talk,
but don't/can't walk the walk!
"The Holy ECK feeds all with the bread
and waters of life. So how could a spiritually
alert person do less than SERVE It with love
and humility? This attitude should be like
a shining light to the world. True love and
humility show in all one's dealings. Build and
support people. An old saying has it: `Whose
bread I eat, his song I sing.'
I wonder who Harold is talking about
because it can't be himself or Joan!
How can Harold be "SPIRITUALLY ALERT"
or "humble" to have made these nasty
comments in this publication? Why did
they not see the obvious point about the
clerk checking to see if people have their
IDs with them before looking for their
And, after 9/11 security is tighter everywhere
anyway! HK and JK were both caught up in
emotional (Astral) anger. The bigger one is
the further they have to fall!
One more thing- This article sat in HK's
computer for awhile and wasn't immediately
printed in this pub. Klemp had plenty of
time to cool down and regain his composure
and perspective. HK could have done
a rewrite, or deleted this, but he didn't!
This gives a very clear look into his dark
Why was it that Harold and Joan can't
see that maybe only one "temporary clerk"
might have been in charge of doing money
orders? Even assuming that this one person
seemed lazy, or was not very customer friendly
about the money order couldn't there be
mitigating circumstances for this?
What was Joan projecting? Or, maybe the
clerk wasn't even trained on how to do
money orders . he's a "TEMPORARY" (fill-in)
postal clerk! Where is the empathy and insight?
Where is Harold's love and humility? Notice
that Harold throws in the word "serve" as
he tries to give the impression that only he
and ECK chelas become spiritually aware
when they "serve It" and that "true love and
humility shows in all one's dealings." Not really,
but putting his spin on things is nothing new
"Wouldn't a loving and humble ECKist
recognize the ECK and the Mahanta
as the source of his very subsistence?
Then how could he ever serve the Kal,
the negative force?"
I didn't meet too many loving and
humble ECKists in my many years
and travels (including Harold!).
They're almost as rare as finding
hen's teeth in the EK Henhouse!
Now I did meet a lot of unloving,
arrogant, delusional, unspiritual,
clueless, rationalizing and manipulative
Eckists! So, maybe This is why many
ECKists don't have a True relationship
with Spirit (the ECK) and rely upon
a living "expert/master." To me, Harold
doesn't seem to have a true relationship
with the higher form of Spirit. Just look
at his words and behavior! And once
again, Harold is pushing reliance on the
Mahanta as the "source of his (ECKists)
very subsistence." ECKists actually serve
the KAL (the Black Magician) while thinking
they are serving the Mahanta. But take
a second look at Klemp's words!
It's interesting that Harold asks the
question as to how any ECKist could
ever serve the KAL when they claim
to serve the ECK (Spirit), AND the Mahanta?
Is this supposed to be proof that Harold
is serving Spirit instead of KAL? Does
PT's made-up title of "Mahanta" mean
that HK's above Karma? And, doesn't
service to "IT" take place and change
in each moment as we make choices,
or do chelas just start the day with
a contemplation and pretend that the
pretentious Mahanta will take care
of things for them?
If ECKists are to be "spiritually alert"
then they should be alert to what is
taking place with other people and
with their own Actions and Reactions
to them, as well as, the situations
we are all placed in for our spiritual
Unfortunately, both Harold and Joan
did not view this experience and test,
with the THIRD temporary postal clerk,
as an opportunity for their own spiritual
growth because they are delusional and
egotistical. I would say that they have
MISSED the MARK and have erroneously
placed themselves above the field of
action and of spiritual growth. They are
deluded and mean spirited! Klemp may
have fooled these ECKists, for now, but
eventually IT will catch up to him! Catch-22!