Those were the days - Crosspost from Eckankartruth
- Hello Realbizarrebazar and Etznab,
That's interesting about the Shariyat
and ECK-Vidya being kept from the
public. I don't think Klemp can even
explain and understand the ECK-Vidya!
Maybe Klemp should have some help
from Phil Morimitsu and Doug Marman
and write "The ECK-Vidya For Dummies."
I've read in "Difficulties Of Becoming
The Living ECK Master" that Paul had
completed the Shariyat Book 3, (actually
Paul flip-flops on this detail by saying
he had 4 Shariyat Books completed and
then corrects himself). Paul had intended
to write all 12 Books for the Shariyat series!
Here, below, Paul continues to talk about
Eckists sharing details and answering questions
about Eckankar at public talks and how the
Shariyat series will correct that problem.
PT states (page 136):
"When somebody asks you about the back-
ground of ECKANKAR, you never knew what
to say, so now you're going to have the advantage
of it. Cause with all that, see, I write books
in series. I have four books that are finished
now; well, the Shariyat is a continued writing,
but I've got three books actually. In my next
series, I'm taking up the MAHANTA and all
the history of the MAHANTA back to the
beginning, so you people will have something
you can go by. You won't flounder around
like this fellow floundered around. He didn't
know what to say; nobody told him, and he
just took what he thought was being said,
see? I don't like people to have to go out
and do their own research."
Why Klemp can't write/complete/print
PT'S Shariyat 3 is puzzling. Did Twit lie
then, or is Klemp lying now?
Shouldn't Klemp have been able to have
completed the Shariyat Series (12 Books)
in 27 years, especially, since HK's paid
to have himself listed in "The International
Who's Who of Intellectuals (ninth edition)."
Thus, Klemp must be smart enough to
write a Shariyat or two.
And, HK boasts, in the title of his own
Autobiography, to being a "Modern Prophet!"
Thus, with all of these accolades and having
the Mahanta (spiritual) credentials what
are the real reasons for Not writing these
12 Books during 27 years as the LEM/M?
Twit planned to write these 12 Shariyats
39 years ago prior to his unexpected
BTW- In "Difficulties Of Being The Living
ECK Master" (pg. 244) The Mystic World
Oct.-Nov.-Dec. 1970 issue states that:
"Paul does not appear to like the intellectual
person. He says they are all the same, making
elaborate little plans. They give fussy attention
to small perfections and when something goes
wrong because of their inborn blindness, they
scream frantically for help from someone else
to act in their behalf--to do something for them."
I wonder what the "international Intellectual,"
Klemp, thinks about these comments of PT's?
Perhaps, this is an ECK-Vidya reading on the
973rd LEM Klemp!
Yes, that was Paul speaking.
The book came out in February of 1971.
What he says in pretty much in line with
"ECKANKAR - The Key To Secret Worlds"
But, originally, the Shariyat-Ki-SUGMAD
"translations" were for Eckankar members
only, not for the general public.
Even as late as 1973 and pretty much going
into the mid and late seventies, only three
books were released to the general public,
at least in the midwest, being the three Lancer
It wasn't until the mid to late seventies that
efforts were made to infiltrate bookstores
with the Illuminated Way Press.
The idea in the early seventies was that the
general public would erupt into riots or
something if they got their hands on the
Shariyat. The general public could not be
trusted with such indoctrination, I mean,
"deep, inside information."
Quite honestly, if a regular book reviewer
had come across such weird stuff in the
Shariyat, the party would have been over
a long time ago. The news would have
New members were watched carefully
and then were eventually trusted enough
to borrow such books not available to
Once it was obvious that you were psychotic,
then you could borrow "The ECK-Vidya"
and so forth.
So, on the one hand you had the stuff
from Paul that seemed somewhat reasonable,
and then you had the Mr. Hyde stuff that
became a "nonprofit" operation trying to
profit from your fears.
Meanwhile, neither Darwin or Harold were
high enough (?!?) to translate all the other
Shariyats into English or even into Amdo.
Heck, Darwin could hardly pronounce
anything in Amdo and Harold wisely doesn't
He will go down in history as the great pretender.
Too bad he had to take all the creativity away
Even Paul and Darwin understood the need
for creative outflow.
Now Eckankar is only suitable for those with
short attention spans.
Were those Paul Twitchell quotes from Warren
Smith's book? That was my impression.
I see your point.
Strange, Paul wrote that after he wrote Shariyat
One (and was working on Shariyat Two?).
Do you know around what time in 1971 Warren
Smith's book came out? I never read that book
Thanks for mentioning it. A real eye opener!