Re: Eckankar and Hypnosis
- Hello Ionwakome,
Welcome to the site. It is rather ironic
that Klemp (ECKankar's leader, the M/LEM),
as well as Twitchell, didn't like hypnotists
or hypnotherapists, and yet there are EKists
who make a living in these professions and
who draw other EKists into this Astral/Psychic
and Mental realm.
Yes, many years ago some Ekists were openly
making their "path" more individualized
Long ago I, too, once attended a past life
regression workshop conducted by a hypnotist.
It was interesting, and I had good results.
Then again, I've always had positive and
interesting results, as well as, phenomenal
And, sometimes I could "see" the same
Astral visions as others, H.I.s included.
At first, it would amaze me that I always
knew, (in advance), at least two topics
Klemp would use in his seminar talks.
Later, I realized that HK's talks were
mostly on an Astral level and that's
why I was able to "read" him so easily.
You're right that Klemp screws with the
minds of his followers (don't all religions?),
and he teaches "spiritual" poverty.
HK also teaches servitude (missionary service)
since most ECKists don't have much to give
financially. Was this taken out of the Mormon
ECKists have a poverty consciousness that
is (pridefully) mistaken for good "spiritual"
karma. They think that their "good" karma
was used up in finding ECKankar in this
lifetime. Thus, there's nothing left over
for financial security, for added material
comforts, or for physical health and well
Yet, where is the "spiritual freedom," in
this lifetime, for EK H.I.'s? Realizing that
one "is" Soul versus having "a" Soul is the
key to identifying One's Self as Divine and
as a member of the Divine Hierarchy. But,
EK H.I.'s still NEED Klemp to direct them
and to approve of their every experience.
They have become their own prisoners
and see the bars, to their cells, as protection
from outside forces. What would happen
to these H.I.'s if they would free themselves
by simply walking out of their cells and
out of their prison (ECKankar)?
For many EK H.I.'s freedom would a difficult
adjustment. Many will return to another (or
the same) prison of religious thought. That's
why many people are "followers" of groups.
I wanted to share this story with someone
but have never found exactly the right
place and time until now. Many years ago
I attended a 3-day course in Boston to
become a certified hypnotherapist. (what
a joke - the Ecks aren't the only ones
out there to make a buck...)
anyway, I met this woman who was involved
with Eckankar. She had a spiritual "master"
whose name was so sacred she couldn't reveal
it. I respected her privacy, but one of the
hypnosis exercises involved some "past life
Well, somehow I screwed up the task and ended
up in this woman's psychic space. I saw her sitting
on a rock at the beach with this really handsome
well-built man whom I assumed was her significant
When we came out of the exercise I made the
mistake of bringing it up to her and asking if
the handsome guy with the weird name was her
boyfriend - she literally started screaming at
me right then and there and was very upset that
I had "seen" her Eck master and not only that -
I KNEW HIS NAME! It was the high point of the
day, let me tell you!
Anyway - I decided that this Eck stuff was all
a bunch of crap that someone had contrived
to screw with peoples minds - after all why were
they teaching folks to hoard something that is
freely available to everyone. Teaching scarcity
to a world already in spiritual poverty is just
plain wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!