EK 2009 Springtime Seminar (part 3)
- Klemp's 2009 Springtime Seminar talk:
"The Secret Path to Heaven"
Why is Klemp's ECKankar "Secret?"
Klemp now recounts 5 stories sent to him
by his chelas and ties their good fortune into
their belief of being helped by the Mahanta
(Klemp's personalized God-like inner essence),
or by Rebazar. And, one chela was "protected"
from perceived danger by chanting HU.
However, it should be pointed out that people,
of other religious beliefs, call upon Jesus
or their Prophet or God to help them when
in need and they often have even better results!
They will also "see" and experience the presence
via visitations, intercessions (miracles) with
their "Masters," Saints, and Prophets just like
EKists do, and these other Beings Are Not
EK Masters! In Truth, it is Soul! Others just
take the credit!
I'll paraphrase HK's stories to save time
#1 "Arthur, in Nigeria, took a bus to another
town to look for a job, but didn't have enough
money for the return trip. He used what money
he did have to get him as far as he could go
but still had a hour of walking to get home.
Since he had to walk through a bad high crime
area he began chanting HU. A man came to
him out of the dark and asked him to help
him because his car got stuck in some mud.
Arthur, with the help of the man's wife, pushed
the car out of the mud. The man thanked Arthur
by giving him money for the bus home. Arthur
realized that the man in the car was sent by
the Mahanta." [end]
So, due to Arthur's stupidity and lack of foresight
(not taking enough money for the bus home) we
now have an EK story! I wonder, was Arthur sent,
by the Mahanta, to help the man and woman out
of the mud? Anyhow, common everyday events
and outcomes are now attributed to Klemp's
This next story of Klemp's is rather old (recycled)
since the EK Temple just opened.
#2 "Ellen was tutoring two children in their
living room during the summer. The window
was open and the dog across the street began
barking for 40 minutes. The children's father
said the dog has 120 barks in him and he won't
stop until he gets all of them out. These events
happened around the time the EK Temple in
Chanhassen first opened and many people
were unhappy about it because they were
afraid ECKankar was like other disreputable
`If we were one of THOSE groups we wouldn't
have come to Minnesota. We would have stayed
in California! Now, of course, I will hear from the
Californians! I'm joking. It was too expensive for
the ESC staff to live near the office, so one reason
we moved was to find a cheaper place for the
ESC staff to live.'
At that time Ellen was a tour guide at the Temple.
One day a woman came in ranting and raving.
She dumped her frustrations on Ellen who remembered
the dog with 120 barks. She decided that this
woman also had a certain number of words inside
so she listened [pretended to listen] until the woman
stopped speaking. When she was done the woman
said, `Thank you for being so kind.' The woman
agreed to take a tour of the Temple and when it
was over she gave Ellen a hug. Ever since that
time Ellen has always remembered the dog with
120 barks and vowed to listen to people without
opinions, just accepting them as Soul. Klemp
also added another comment about people who
vent their frustrations: `When it's all out, the show's
This final comment shows Klemp's lack of empathy!
And let's face it, Ellen didn't "listen" to the woman or
else she would have recounted what her frustrations
were all about. We don't even know, for sure, if it
had anything to do with the new ECK Temple!
Instead, "Ellen" viewed this person like one would
view a dog! This EK Temple tour guide "listened"
to this woman's words like someone would listen
to a dog's barking!
Plus, Klemp didn't move ECKankar to Chanhassen
in order to give the ESC staff cheap housing near
work! LOL! No one wanted to move from sunny
California to cold and grey Minnesota! That's a lie!
Klemp, after restructuring, didn't want to divulge
the cult's finances, then or ever, and Minnesota
protects Non-profits from public disclosure. And,
it's not that much of a drive to Wisconsin where
Klemp was born. Early on, Klemp used the excuse
that the work ethic and morals were better in MN.
than in CA. In truth, Klemp wanted to isolate himself,
and his staff, from outside influences and to protect
his profits from scrutiny. It's a control tactic!
#3 "Walter is retired, but this story happened
when "Walter" was only one year old. Walt was
in his father's car sitting between his father and
his grandfather. In those days there were no
seat belts or child safety seats. A [supposedly]
drunk driver headed toward them at a high rate
of speed but swerved at the last minute. `There
are many people who experience the protection
of the ECK Masters long before they come into
the teachings of ECK.' Walter [later I assume]
realized that he had been spared an early death
so that he could study ECKankar. More recently,
Walter was driving to San Diego with his wife and
grown daughter. He was about 50-60 feet behind
a 18-wheeler when a piece of steel was kicked up
by the back tires of the semi. Suddenly, Rebazar
appeared in front of them and batted the piece of
steel out of the way! The steel hit the car, but at
radiator level rather than going through the wind
shield. Walter and his family were grateful for the
protection! It's a benefit of being on the Secret
Path to Heaven." [end]
LOL! Rebazar didn't do a very good job at "batting"
the steel out of the way if it still hit the car! Was this
really just some left over "car karma?" I had a similar
thing happen to me when on the freeway a block
of wood was kicked up and hit my fender. It could
have just as easily come through the wind shield.
No Rebazar or EK Master was on hand to "bat" it
out of the away either, but I had the same "protection"
Klemp continues with comments about his "Secret
Path to Heaven" statement.
"Why is it secret? It really depends on your state
of consciousness [initiation]. IF the consciousness
is closed, the path is secret - it can't be seen [perceived].
IF the consciousness is open, the path really isn't
secret at all."
ME: So, it seems that this is a misdirection. EK
is publicized so it's not "secret," but there are
details of this religion that are kept "secret" until
the "consciousness" of the individual can handle
it. Like with the 60,000 year old EK Master Asoki
and the others like Gakko and Rami Nuri from
Venus. And, let's not forget Darwin Gross 972nd
M/LEM and the role he played. This too is a secret!
HK: "Ask yourself, `Who's living the dream?' Your
consciousness will dictate whether the dream you
are living is a nightmare or not. Work off your karma
and open your heart to love. it's all about God's
love. Nothing more, but nothing less."
ME: Then why does one need religion or a
"Mahanta" when all they need is "God's love?"
Soul doesn't need to join ECKankar and carry
an (annual) membership card to experience
Divine Love, does it(!)
BTW- In EK, the initiation number indicates
one's circle of consciousness. Yet, it's limited
to the group's consciousness - the circle's.
Observe the lowest and the highest member
of one's "circle" and then "imagine" whatever
you wish. Voila'! This is the key to ECKankar!
#4 "Carrie was invited to an office holiday party.
She didn't want to go, but the Mahanta nudged
her to go. After Carrie got to the party she
was drawn to a part of the room where a
stranger was standing. She was too shy
to go up and say hi, but once again the
Mahanta nudged her so she went over
and introduced herself. When the man
gave his name she realized they had a
friend in common (Ann). Carrie asked the
man how he had come to know Ann. He
said that Ann had studied ECKankar and
recently read a book by Twitchell and was
wondering about rejoining. She told her
husband that she was looking for a `sign.'
When she met Carrie, an ECKist she saw
this as her "sign." `God put this sign right
in front of my face. How could I miss it?
Ann was struck by how the Holy Spirit
works. She rejoined ECkankar and her
husband, previously a non-Eckist, also
ME: That's great that they're now both
1st initiates instead of zero initiates!
Misery (and delusion) loves company!
Note: "During this story Klemp knocked
the microphone with his hand as he gestured.
When he was ready to continue the story,
he said, `Now where were we?' He said
he often tells [rehearses] his stories to
his wife, Joan, and when the stories are
interrupted, he asks, `Where were we?'
HK joked that Joan always knows, and
that he can't believe that she was actually
listening [since he doesn't listen to her].
Klemp defined EK terms for the Guests,
saying that, "The Mahanta is a personalized
form of the Holy Spirit, and that it is the
inner side of the Living ECK Master (LEM).
The LEM's job is to sit on stage and try to
remember what he was supposed to say
(joked Harry). IF you came to be impressed,
sorry (laughter). You're getting more than
you know (applause).
ME: Yeah, right! They didn't need to travel
to the Minneapolis Hilton, and pay for this
session, to imagine what was being said
on the "inner" now did they!
HK: "When people come into ECkankar
they have walked many a weary karmic
mile in past lives. Anyone, Eckist or not,
can tell others about the HU. One can
see various colors of light on the inner
when singing the HU. That Light is another
manifestation (besides Sound) of the
ME: Klemp leaves out the fact (according
to EK dogma) that these are Astral Plane
"colors" that one sees on the "inner" when
chanting HU! And, since others, besides
Eckists, know about the HU it's obvious
that there are other, and older, religions
that teach what Twitchell merely copied.
#5 "Tom, in Florida, was traveling with
his wife and his brother and sister and
their spouses while on vacation. One
evening they decided to stop to have
a seafood dinner. They went to a busy,
noisy, and crowded restaurant and had
to wait a long time for a table. Finally,
a table to the side of the room opened,
but "Tom" got a big nudge not to sit
there. `Is there any other table?' he asked.
There was one in the center of the room,
but they had to wait a little longer for it
to be cleared. Finally they were seated
and looking at their menus. Tom heard
a woman behind him say, `My daughter
just joined ECKankar and I don't know
anything about it!' Suddenly, Tom knew
exactly why he got that nudge not to sit
at the other table. He was supposed to
[proselytize] talk to this woman. He turned
around to her and said, `I'm an ECKist,
and so are the rest of the people at this
table [birds of a feather].' They talked
to the woman a bit about ECKankar,
hopefully [tricking her] allaying her fears
about it being a dangerous cult of some
ME: One really does have to wonder what
might happen if Klemp lost his last grasp
on his little patch of reality and committed
suicide. Or, he might suggest that his chelas
could experience the Anami Lok, now, by
leaving their physical shells (bodies) behind.
They would all have the Mahanta's guidance
and protection in the Higher Worlds of Sugmad.
Wow! What a promise and guarantee! How
could his chelas pass that up? And, those that
did pass it up would have failed the final test!
"At the end of his talk Klemp recapped the
major points of his talk and invited the audience
to the book-room [to buy one of his crappy books].
He thanked people for coming and said, `I wuv
you. May My Blessings Be [forever].' He waved
to the his fans before leaving the stage."
P.S. "The Dessert Social was held in the Symphony
IV room on the 2nd floor, and it turned out to be
a much better place than Salon D. Several online
Eckists gathered at one of the tables to chat in
ME: That's funny! This room was a "much better
place" than the room Klemp gave his talk in!
I guess it's not like asking for another table! lol!