Did HK Infect Joan With EMF Disease?
- Hello Non ekster,
It seems that Joan has been infected too!
Is Klemp contagious? He should be wearing
a mask and gloves when in public and when
asking for larger Membership Donations!
Until now I had never heard that Joan was
affected by EMF. When did this happen?
Is it psycho somatic from living with Harry?
Maybe the Klemp's should become Amish!
Don't Acupuncture needles pick up some
EMF from the surrounding wiring? Do the
Klemp's have a gas or an electric stove?
I wonder if they use a microwave? Really,
becoming Amish would be the best cure
for Harry's and Joan's EMF disease!
I'm glad that Klemp's dis-ease hasn't kept
most ECKists away from their computers
and away from EK sites like HU Chat and
Chela Chat or from Myspace and FaceBook.
BTW- As for the increase in the "requested"
EK Membership Donation/Fee... "Give 'As If'
There's No Tomorrow" could be HK's new
Higher Initiations (and free beer) Tomorrow,
is a clever and humorous promise! Yes?
Non ekster wrote:
Klemp should be called "The Sickly Eck Master". lol
I guess the eck chelas who think they are so special,
should expect the same fate?
"[Klemp]: Harold said that before EMF
radiations were a problem for himself
and Joan, they used to watch TV in the
evening for entertainment. They were
particularly fond of two British comedies,
"Are You Being Served?" and "Fawlty Towers."
The first was about a group of salespeople
in a British department store, where each
of them had a foible that led to amusing
situations. The second was about a hotel
that was run by a husband and wife.
[ME]: JOAN has EMF "problems" too!
It must be contagious! Or, it's contagious
when you're a 9th living with a 14th who
has EMF "problems." After all, how would
it look if a highly evolved/sensitive 9th
Initiate didn't have EMF problems too!
BTW- Those two British sitcoms are old
news. I started watching them when Harry
first mentioned them years ago. They were
okay, but British humour is rather dry...
Non eckster ; )
> Hello All,
> I thought that I'd give my opinions and
> perspectives of Klemp's talk. When analyzing
> it directly, or reading between the lines,
> HK's "current" discussion subjects and
> choice of words tell volumes about his
> personality, honesty, and mental health.
> Here are some of Klemp's latest, but out-dated
> (and recycled) witticisms and double speak
> from the recent EK Seminar held at the Hilton
> Hotel in Minneapolis.
> BTW-These comments are from the notes
> taken by a H.I. who attended the seminar.
> I have done minimal editing, mostly, for the
> sake of conciseness.
> THE TALK:
> [Klemp]: He began by commenting on the
> bright stage lights as he shaded his eyes with
> his hand in order to look out at the audience.
> "I'm recognizing you and enjoying you," he said.
> [ME]: What an odd comment! He just got on
> stage. Maybe he's enjoying the applause and
> the reception he just received from the smaller
> crowd. Vain isn't he... to enjoy the applause
> and the smiling faces from his blind followers!
> Harry was wearing a new dark blue suit, which
> seemed a little too large on him, as if he's lost
> some weight. He was wearing a periwinkle blue
> shirt with a striped tie. His hair seemed a softer
> gray all over.
> [ME]: I really don't know if this was a "new"
> suit. Why would a person buy a "new suit"
> that was too big? Maybe Klemp has lost weight,
> or maybe he's trying to puff himself out to
> look bigger?
> [Klemp]: Welcomed the Guests and the Youth,
> remarking that he was glad that we had come,
> since travel is difficult for many people, with
> the economic downturn. The so-called experts
> don't really know what's going on, he cautioned.
> After all, they didn't seem to see this recession
> coming. He said that right now, overall, there
> is 8% unemployment in the U.S. While this is high,
> he recalled that unemployment during the Great
> Depression (after the stock market crash on
> October 29, 1929) was much higher, 30% "When
> your neighbor's out of work, it's a recession.
> When you're out of work, it's a depression,"
> he said with a smile.
> [ME]: So why does Klemp have Eckists travel
> to see him when times are tough? Why not
> just record and broadcast the talk/seminar
> in a studio at the ESC? BTW- Klemp, another
> "expert," is a little low with that 8%. The real
> rate is 9%. HK should use more accurate sources.
> And, we don't need to have a 30% unemployment
> rate for it to be classified as a depression.
> HK, the EK "Modern Prophet" should go to
> robertreich.blogspot.com. Why didn't Klemp
> see it coming? And what's with that smile?
> Klemp began by answering four questions
> that the EK Youth had prepared for him.
> Question 1: I've begun to take my connection
> with the Mahanta for granted. How can I keep
> the inner fire alive?
> [Klemp]: Life keeps us on track.
> Mind wants to go back to a comfortable
> place, and when we allow this to happen,
> things begin to go wrong. Then we ask
> the Mahanta for help. The Mahanta says,
> "Pay your dues and get yourself back on
> track. Put your attention where it belongs."
> Harry noted that for most people there is
> a pattern of being on track and then falling
> away, followed by getting on track again.
> Don't worry, says Harry, the Mahanta
> is working with you.
> [ME]: Wait! Does Klemp ask (the Mahanta),
> himself, for help or does he ask the ECK?
> ECKists should ask the ECK (the Holy Spirit)
> for help instead of asking a God/man (Klemp)
> whose approved answer doesn't come except
> via snail mail.
> Question 2: What role does humor play
> in spirituality?
> [Klemp]: Humor is not the same as wit,
> sarcasm, or comedy. Wit and sarcasm have
> a sharp bite. Humor opens the heart but
> doesn't put other people down. Spiritual
> humor has a spiritual content behind the
> [ME]: Comedy can be a combination
> of humor, wit, and sarcasm. John Stewart,
> of "The Daily Show," uses sarcasm and
> wit for humor. ECKists take Klemp, and
> his opinions, too seriously! He's like the
> Pope of Chanhassen/Eden Prairie!
> [Klemp]: Harold said that before EMF
> radiations were a problem for himself
> and Joan, they used to watch TV in the
> evening for entertainment. They were
> particularly fond of two British comedies,
> "Are You Being Served?" and "Fawlty Towers."
> The first was about a group of salespeople
> in a British department store, where each
> of them had a foible that led to amusing
> situations. The second was about a hotel
> that was run by a husband and wife.
> [ME]: JOAN has EMF "problems" too!
> It must be contagious! Or, it's contagious
> when you're a 9th living with a 14th who
> has EMF "problems." After all, how would
> it look if a highly evolved/sensitive 9th
> Initiate didn't have EMF problems too!
> BTW- Those two British sitcoms are old
> news. I started watching them when Harry
> first mentioned them years ago. They were
> okay, but British humour is rather dry...
> like Harry.
> Question 3: What can stimulate us to
> be grateful for what we have when life
> is hard?
> [Klemp]: Do your Spiritual Exercises and
> sing HU or other spiritually charged words.
> HU can help in times of danger, misunderstandings
> and illness. He says he gets lots of letters
> from people telling him how singing HU
> helps people.
> [ME]: Again, Klemp states the obvious.
> Did he really have to have a seminar to
> repeat what has been said over and over
> time and again! But, if HU helps so much
> then why does one need a M/LEM, especially,
> when he just repeats Twitchell's Shariyats?
> Question 4: How to I enjoy being with
> friends when their beliefs differ from mine?
> My friends include a smoker, a gossip,
> and an atheist.
> [Klemp]: Why settle for friends like this
> (half joking)? The Eck Youth are out there
> engaging with people who don't think like
> Eckists do, and that this takes courage.
> A lot of people fall by the wayside along
> the spiritual path. He cautioned the youth
> to beware of second-hand smoke effects,
> and advised the youth to ask their friends
> not to smoke indoors. He said that if the
> smoker doesn't do this for a friend, then
> he isn't much of a friend.
> [ME]: Since Klemp was "half joking" wasn't
> he, also, being sarcastic! HK's a hypocrite!
> Klemp recalled that a friend of his from out
> of town, a non-Eckist, wanted to come and
> visit him, but Harry had to tell him that he
> was too sensitive to smoke to allow the visit.
> [ME]: I have friends that smoke and when
> they visit me they go outside to smoke.
> Klemp is very insensitive to others isn't he!
> There's just no empathy with Klemp. He's
> way too judgmental!
> HK also recalled playing carom billiards
> (a game played on a table without pockets)
> when he began to feel dizzy from the smoke.
> As an aside, he told the audience that IF the
> other player does "test shots" before playing
> a game, don't bet any money on the outcome,
> because the player probably knows what he
> is doing!
> [ME]: I'm thinking that Klemp is just "dizzy"
> all of the time! If it's not smoke, it's EMF, or
> whatever! So, at one time (ten years ago?)
> Klemp went someplace to play billards and
> the people there smoked. Why not just leave?
> BTW- The "good" players don't do "test shots"
> or even "trick shots" before playing a game.
> They don't want to tip you off as to how "good"
> they might be, however, they will have a nice
> custom made pool cue.
> [Klemp]: As for gossip, Harry says that gossip
> is like a skunk spraying their stink around.
> Don't listen to gossip - it will pull you down,
> he advised. Instead, listen to the Inner Master.
> [ME]: Klemp doesn't want his chelas to discuss
> his nonsense, Peter's, Joan's, or his RESAs'
> informally with one another. Thus, to do so
> is "gossip" and is, spiritually, bad karma.
> However, one can only "imagine" what the
> "Inner Master" has to say! Catch-22!
> [End of Part 1]