When Will Klemp Increase Membership Costs?
- In EK: Membership Fees & Jumping Thru Hoops = Initiations
I'd like to tweak what I had previously stated.
The 5th and 6th Initiates (H.I.s) have to jump
through the hoops of HK's RESA org. and pecking
order in order to be "eligible" for that next
This not only includes updates on Arahata
training, but also includes attending a required
book discussion on the H.I. Leadership Book
and on the H.I. Leadership Workbook.
And, there are other special requirements/
trainings for those wanting to become Clerics,
Initiators, and ECK Spiritual Aids (ESAs) in
order to gain those coveted initiations.
Under Klemp, a Fifth Initiate must become
a Cleric before becoming "eligible" for a Sixth
Initiation. And, a Sixth must become both an
Initiator and a Spiritual Aid before being "eligible"
for the Seventh Initiation.
H.I.s, wanting promotion, must, also, be in
the "EK spotlight" (high profile). They have to
be Satsang Arahatas, doing intros, helping with
the ECK Worship Services (EWS) and have both
an "Explorer" and "Settler" position within the
local and/or regional RESA org. (EK Satsang
Society). Being noticed and taking on more
responsibilities helps, but it could hinder one
as well. If one isn't familiar with the "Guidelines"
and isn't on the same page with their RESA,
or just doesn't "get it" (fall in-line) then being
noticed will be detrimental and one can be
placed on a 3-5 year "Black List" by the RESA.
An H.I. must always be positive and never criticize
(unless the RESA wants to know about someone
in the local area) even when other chelas are screwing
things up. In other words, bite your tongue and keep
silent! Of course, this is a double edged sword for
Klemp and company.
However, another way to get promoted is to be
on extremely friendly terms with the RESA. Ask
him/her what can you do to help with the Mahanta's
mission. By doing this, and standing out as a local
EK Leader, one can instill trust and also become
a confidential informant (C.I.) for the RESA. This
opens the door for the RESA to call you (among
others) to ask whether or not a certain person on
the ESC promotion list should be promoted, or not,
to the next level. Also, this enables you to call the
RESA about any (major) improprieties in behaviours
etc. that you may see. All RESAs rely upon a select
group of local H.I.s to keep them informed.
Klemp not only relies upon his RESAs, but also
relies upon letters and IROs to keep him informed.
Thus, ECKankar, is a bottom-up informed org/church.
There really is no "Inner" communication from the
top-down except in the imaginations of HK's chelas
and H.I.s. Everything is communicated and verified
on the outer, in talks and print, and this is why ECKists
will always need their lower plane religion and to
pay/renew that annual membership!
I'm still amazed that Initiations can be taken away
due to not paying the "outer" membership fee. It's
bad enough losing eligibility for future initiations
by not maintaining a "current" outer membership.
ECKankar (and religions in general) is said to be
like an "iceberg." The tip of an iceberg (what can
be seen and measured with the outer senses) represents
only 1/10th of its true size or of its reality. However,
this is Not a proper measurement and analogy of
ECKankar. In EK, Initiations are Key! This is the main
focus of all ECKists whether they admit to it or Not!
Thus, 5ths and 6ths must buy the insurance policy
(the annual EK membership) in order to be eligible
for that next initiation while 7ths must buy the annual
insurance in order to maintain their status (with the
hope of getting the 8th). And yet, this is supposed
to be a religion with a "Master" whose primary focus
is upon the "Higher" Planes! LOL!
Prometheus wrote to Non-ekster and All:
In ECKankar Paid Membership Fees = Initiations
I agree, a red flag should have come up when ECKists
were told that they have to pay an annual fee in order
to Not Only be eligible for initiation, BUT to also hold
onto those initiations they have already been given.
What doesn't make sense is that EK Initiations are
supposed to be both outer and inner. Thus, a Fifth,
Sixth, or Seventh Initiate receives two stages of the
initiation on the Inner (just as Ninths do) while the
third and final stage is the confirmation on the outer.
Why then must an ECKist pay or renew their "annual"
membership donation/fee in order to "maintain" the
initiation they were given? Why does it all come down
to money? Shouldn't the Higher EK Initiations, supposedly,
exist beyond the influence of lower world religious
and business rules and requirements? Why aren't ECKists
realizing that this is proof that Klemp is Not who or
what he claims to be!
Non ekster wrote:
Just like eckankar, devoid of any real substance, full of cliches and
meaningless hype. Yes Prometheus, it is very unpleasant, I agree,
to have endured this Cult. Fortunately, we have survived. Unfortunate
though that those who hang on to this LIE called eckankar, still act
"as If" they can convince a few unsuspecting people to join up.
>meaningful Spiritual Growth without being a member of eckankar
> Perhaps the worst of the lies is that you cannot experience any
and most of all paying your Membership fees. (NOT) That should be
the biggest Red Flag of them all. The only person benefiting is the
Cheif Eksecutive OFFicer $ (LEM/M), Klemp.
>Non ekster ; )