Klemp's Never Mentioned Darwin's Death!
- View SourceIt's been one year since Darwin Gross' (972nd
M/LEM) death. Yet, Harold Klemp (973rd LEM)
has never found it necessary to mention it!
Klemp has missed numerous opportunities to say
something nice about the man who gave him his
job! This tells volumes about the "real" Klemp and
shows just how mean spirited, unforgiving, and
unloving that he is. Thus, Klemp's sin of omission
(of love and kindness) is proof that he is NOT
and has NEVER BEEN a "Master."
Here's another look at Klemp's 1983 private
& confidential letter to Darwin and his reply.
This is Klemp's 1983 Personal & Confidential
Letter to Gross with Gross's response.
Klemp is discrediting Gross's validity as an ECK
Master due to and regarding DG's past conduct.
However, one wonders the timeline of the
misconduct since Klemp was initiated by
Gross, as LEM, on Oct. 22, 1981.
[BTW- Gross' responses, to HK's comments,
are written, as notations, on various parts of
the Letter including the margins and with an
ink pen versus a ballpoint. This factor, along
with DG's handwriting style, has caused me
to make educated/logical guesses (in some
cases) as to the exact word DG is using in his
reply. However, I also look at the context of
Klemp's remarks (overall) in order to determine
the context of Gross' reply.
FYI, I am putting into CAPS everything that Darwin
Gross, (DG), has "UNDERLINED" or "CIRCLED" on
Klemp's letter to him. DG is responding to and
correcting Klemp on key issues. This document,
too, is located under the "First" LINK on the LINKS
Page and in the FILES section. The (below) beginning
comments were written by DG at the top of HK's
letter to him.
[Also, "EK A Universal Teaching" was printed on
the bottom of the first page of Klemp's letter.]
[DG]: "It is my belief that all this ruckus was based
on ill suspicion by you, Harold and passed on to the
Board and 8th's as a power play when all was necessary
was to talk about it for you know within your own heart
you have harbored ill feelings which I would have gladly
aided you had you asked."
[HK]: "Personal and Confidential
September 15, 1983
P.O. Box 837
Corvallis, Oregon 97339
Dear Darwin, As the Mahanta, the Living
ECK Master, it is my duty to write you with
regard to actions you have taken which are
CONTRARY TO THE TENETS..."
[HK]: "...and doctrine of the sacred teachings
of Eckankar and which are not in the best
interests of the chelas. As the Shariyat-Ki-
[DG]: "I've bent over backwards to help you,
you nor the Board asked 1 question!"
[HK]: "...The Divine Dreamer sends out Its dreams
to man via The Mahanta, the Living Eck Master
(Book II, p.7)..."
[DG]: "P.T. is the Mahanta to 1,000 years yet."
*ME: TWITCHELL IS THE MAHANTA FOR 1,000 YEARS!
[HK]: " the Sugmad takes control of all life through
ITS counterparts such as the Eck, the Lords, Rulers,
and Governors, of each plane, and the Eck Masters of
the Vairagi, and those beings who are co-workers of
ITSELF. All these work through and with the Mahanta,
the Living Eck Master . (p.60)"
[HK]: "Your ACTIONS have circumvented my spiritual
authority. The communications you have instigated
with the membership have been needlessly creating
DISHARMONY and have been MISLEADING. You would
not tolerate such activity during your Mastership and
I have a similar responsibility `to defend the works
of Eck and the chelas who have put their interest
in Eck.' (From your June 1972 Wisdom Notes and
the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book I, p.101)"
[DG]: "What actions? I have been quiet & secluded
until you removed my secretary using. The accusations
here are H.K.'s not wishing to tell the truth."
[HK]: "You should clearly understand the CONFLICT
you are generating within some chelas. The Shariyat
One states, `NEITHER CAN ANYONE FOLLOW TWO OR
MORE MASTERS AT THE SAME TIME.' (p.82) This is why
it is so often repeated in the ECK teachings that the Living
Eck Master, the holder of the Rod of Power, the Mahanta,
is the final arbiter on all matters physical and spiritual
regarding the Eck teachings. Again, from the Shariyat
*ME: Klemp is taking this quote OUT-OF-CONTEXT!
The "two masters at the same time" is referring to
two different spiritual paths, or to worldly desires
versus heavenly desires and Not to two EK Masters!
Besides, according to EK Dogma, the Master who
first initiates you is with you on the "inner" always!
[DG]: "I'm of the mind you and the Board did this. This
is a misquote. It is up to the individual which EK master
he looks to."
[HK]: ` the Eckist finds there is only ONE MAHANTA
WITHIN EACH LIFETIME..."
[DG]: "Which was established in Paul Twitchell for all time."
*ME: Darwin is saying there was only one MAHANTA
and that was PAUL, and Klemp seems to have proven
that with his Shariyat quote!
[HK]: "...of every Soul spent within the universe. All
other Eck Masters in the Order of the Vairagi, the
Brotherhood of Eck Masters, are know as the Maharaj.
Every Maharaj is subordinate to the Living Eck Master no
matter whom he might be, for the Mahanta holds the ECK
Rod of Power The Mahanta holds this Rod of Power until
he is translated into an esoteric..."
[DG]: "Harold, Please Re-read the Book 2 (S-K) of the
Ninth for you were assisting!"
*ME: What's this about the NINTH INITIATION?
[HK]: "...position within the Order of the Vairagi
somewhere within the universes as a spiritual worker
or greater importance. Then he, too, is a member
of this hierarchy where before he was the head of
it and responsible directly to the Sugmad.
The Maharajs are know as the Silent Ones .' (p.160)"
[DG]: "Start issuing out the succor and get
on with the Spiritual, Darn it!"
*[ME]: I Cannot find this quote about the "MAHARAJS,
the SILENT ONES" in my Shariyat 1&2 anywhere! Klemp
must have edited this out! Klemp's Eckankar Lexicon
states: MAHARAJ - THE BROTHERHOOD OF ECK MASTERS,
SUBORDINATE TO THE MAHANTA, THE LIVING ECK
MASTER WHO HOLDS THE ROD OF ECK POWER (pg.131).
How can members of the BROTHERHOOD of ECK MASTERS
(Order of Vairagi) be the NINE `SILENT ONES!' See, this is
more proof of Twitchell's made-up religion and scam, and
of Klemp's cover-up by Re-editing Twitchell's works!
[HK]: "I am not unaware that `having attained the stature
of the Eck Master, it is found that there yet lies beyond,
higher and even higher stages of spiritual evolution.'
(Shariyat II, p.75) But, `the Eck Masters live mainly in
seclusion' (Shariyat II, p.105)."
[DG]: "That is each EK Master's Decision."
[HK]: `All the Masters of Eckankar generally live in
a RETREAT or inaccessible places...
[DG]: "You kicked me out of mine and cancelled
my Life Time Agreement."
[HK]: "...or, if in the Western countries, every effort
is made to conceal their identity. Their presence is
universal; in India, Tibet, Egypt, China, Lebanon,
Cyprus, Hungary, and other nations of the world.
However, 'THERE IS ONLY one Mahanta, the Living
ECK Master, WHO HAS CHARGE OVER ALL .'
(Shariyat II, p.77)"
[DG] "Not in the Spiritual Planes! Sorry, the Sugmad
has it. You want me to lie, huh?! No way "
[HK]: "It is meant for the Living Eck Master, THE
MAHANTA, TO HAVE THE LAST WORD IN THE RUNNING
OF THE PHYSICAL ORGANIZATION OF ECKANKAR."
[DG]: "P.T. Spiritually. This is up to the Board Not L.E.M."
*[ME]: As I see it this is the chief flaw with Darwin's whole
perspective, AND which Klemp took advantage of and corrected!
The Top Dog Mahanta s/b the sole authority over everything
Eckankar and Darwin should have seen this! LOL! The tenure
of the Board of Eckankar members is (now) for a one year
period, however, they can be replaced at any given time, and
for whatever reason, by the LEM/Mahanta. The votes and input
by the BOARD are at the pleasure of the LEM/Mahanta and
can be rejected at anytime, for any reason, or for no reason!
[HK]: "You should know as well as I that this authority
IS BESTOWED FOR DEEPLY SPIRITUAL REASONS, and
not for personal or material factors."
[DG]: "Not true!"
[HK]: "No other past Eck Master in Eckankar's history
has SOUGHT TO EXERT CONTROL OVER THE PHYSICAL
VEHICLE OF THE SACRED TEACHING PAST HIS TIME."
[DG]: "This is not true!"
[HK]: "The rumors and negative gossip are not emanating from
the direction of the Eckankar Office. If you are concerned
about such gossip and rumors perhaps you should take note of
your previous teaching:...
[DG]: "What about yours & the phone calls? and other
statements made of me which where false & defamatory
from you & the new Board of trustees.
[HK] ...`By involving themselves in such gossip, Eckists are
taking on karmic ties with the individuals they are judging
and they may be sorry they started it.' (your May/June 1980
Mystic World article entitled "Criticizing Others")
As you further wrote in that same article,
`I have written personal letters to certain individuals
asking them to stop their bickering and work together
harmoniously in their communities and they don't seem
to realize the hard-ships they are creating by ignoring
the requests of the Living Eck Master.'
[DG]: "Come on, Harold Let's work together!"
[HK]: "My letter to the membership and other
communications from the office have been healing
in nature your actions have not been so."
[DG]: "Not true. My H.I. & personal mail stops at the
EK office. You need to talk and look for yourself in
the Physical world of the much unrest amongst the
[HK]: "As the physical and spiritual leader of Eckankar,
I AM THE ONE WHO DECIDES WHAT COMMUNICATIONS
ARE MAILED TO THE CHELAS AND TO THE PUBLIC FROM
ECKANKAR not a past Eck master. This is consistent
entirely with my role and the role of the Living Eck Master
[DG]: "This is not true for I have a Spiritual and
Physical Responsibility to many initiates in ECKANKAR.
Also Stop Editing my articles Please. It is only truth
of the Boards action that I wished to let the membership
know of. This is our responsibility."
*[ME]: My reply to Klemp: The only "throughout time"
began with Twitchell. HK bought into the LIE with the
rest of us, however, at some point-in-time he discovered
the truth which he has kept hidden as he became more
powerful and, thus, HK perpetuates the LIE of Eckankar
even further for his own benefit and ego.
[HK]: "Eckankar doctrine is something which falls
EXCLUSIVELY UNDER MY JURISDICTION, TO USE
LANGUAGE YOUR LAWYER MIGHT UNDERSTAND."
*ME: Klemp is showing his nasty side that chelas
don't get to see. He's always on his best behaviour
when they see him for, usually, two hours within
a year's time.
[DG]: "Not true. This is a free world where free
speech and movement is regarded highly."
[HK]: "Neither he, or any judge, or any past Living
Eck Master, has any authority in the area. Rebazar
Tarzs does not need a special mailing to communicate
with Eck chelas, nor does Yaubl Sacabi, Fubbi Quantz,
or Peddar Zaskq. They understand their role to assist
me in the work that needs to be done. THERE IS NO
NEED FOR YOU TO WRITE A FOUR-PAGE LETTER TO
CHELAS ATTEMPTING TO JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS.
An Eck master has no trouble spiritually with those
in his charge."
[DG]: "Only to let the truth be known. What did
I do wrong? Four authors is in true if edited Word
only. Please read them."
*[ME]: My reply to Klemp: Why Does Klemp, himself,
STILL Need OUTER mailings or OUTER Trainings,
Guidelines, Discourses, Member Only Books, Rules,
Newsletters, etc. for the Mahanta Klemp to communicate
with his Chelas? He says REBAZAR doesn't need mailings
and, therefore, Gross shouldn't need mailings to communicate!
HK doesn't practice what he preaches does he! He talks
the talk, but can't walk the walk himself because HK (the
Mahanta) IS A FRAUD! Imagination & Dreams are common
and universal with everyone in the world and the Religions
take advantage of these facts! After 25 years, Due to his
layering of lies, HK is even lower, in consciousness, than
when he began! Just look at the CON of these other Modern
Day Godmen!!! ECKists need to Shift their perspective
in order to see the Truth "behind the curtain" of their
own religion too!
[HK]: "At this point, Darwin, you have shown that you
do not know of the doctrinal rules of the Living Eck Master
and prior Living Eck Masters. These prior Living Eck Masters
are working quietly and harmoniously behind the scenes."
[DG]: "I do Know of The Doctrinal Rules of ECK.
This is why I have been quiet!!!"
*[ME]: Klemp continues the delusion/illusion and
scam by stating that there were "prior" LEMs versus
only PT and DG!
[HK]: "I leave open the possibility that this matter
will heal and that you once again can handle the
responsibilities involved with the assisting me,
the Mahanta, the Living Eck Master."
[DG]: "You do not decide how or what I do with my life.
DG I had stepped aside 2 years ago with Full Awareness
of my Responsibilities to the L.E.M. I have not, Nor Planned
to split the membership as I stated in a letter to the Board,
I Joined hands with you (H.K.) to resolved this misunderstanding
and you Refused to Join me in this attempt to stop all
the rumors. DG
All I have asked for is The Truth to be quoted and the Life
Time Agreement Between ECKANKAR and Sri Darwin Gross
FulFilled. However, the Board Knows No Human decency nor
Ethics as we have put forth to the World in EK. What you do
to me you do to Sri Paul Twitchell and all of the EK Masters-
including yourself. I've always been ready to sit down and
work out any differences between us. Please let us help
those who need help. DG"
*[ME]: Once again, Gross makes the mistake of giving
the ECKANKAR Board of Officers and Trustees too much
power. Klemp quickly corrected this flaw! After all, how
can anyone have authority over the LEM/Mahanta!!!