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Re: Look at what Twitchell said about "the Negro" in 1963!

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello Leanne and All, Sure Twitch married Gail! He was born (according to Klemp) in 1908 and she was born in 1942! She was young, cute, ambitious, and she
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 31, 2009
      Hello Leanne and All,
      Sure Twitch married Gail! He was born (according
      to Klemp) in 1908 and she was born in 1942! She
      was young, cute, ambitious, and she inspired and
      helped him to create ECKankar! She was his muse!
      Their mission was a two pronged effort that paid
      off, especially, for her and Klemp!

      Of course, P.T.'s out-dated chauvinistic attitude
      is another reason why the EK dogma was written,
      thus, disallowing (negative) women from becoming
      the M/LEM, although, female EK Masters are, supposedly,
      possible. Catch-22?

      Prometheus

      Leanne wrote:
      and he married Gail?

      Prometheus wrote:
      Twitchell thought that both Women and Negroes
      should, basically, step back and know their place
      as second class citizens. And, this is supposedly
      a time (1963), according to Klemp, that Twitchell
      was a Higher Initiate and being instructed by ECK
      Master Rebazar Tarzs! After all, Twit was in training
      to become the LEM and leader of ECKankar in only
      two more years (1965)!

      Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle, Washington,
      JULY 9, 1963

      Paul Twitchell, Man Of Parts by Jack Jarvis

      "He spent nearly a year in India in a monastery [the head
      of a monastery is called the Mahanta] and five years with
      an Indian religious cult in Maryland. He still writes occasionally
      for a magazine published in Japan by an Indian religious
      group... In his best writing year, Twitchell says, he sold
      1,200 stories and articles. Of the five novels he's had
      published (four of them in England), one, a mystery, may
      be filmed in England soon. Unpublished manuscripts share
      bookshelf space with scrapbooks of clippings. And he feels
      that if a certain New York publisher had more men than women
      reading manuscripts, his diatribe 'All About Women' would
      have been published too. During his three years in Seattle,
      he's had one book and five short stories published and has
      sold one television script... by his own admission he's an
      'authentic nondescript individualist' who is against... many
      things...

      he [Twitchell] dislikes career women...

      he is against 'the flapdoodle of these modern times,' i.e.
      togetherness, credit cards, insurance, and ranch-type
      homes in the city. He shuns routine,

      thinks the NEGRO is 'whacky as a bug' for wanting to
      get into the White man's society, is a loner and a rebel..."

      READ IT YOURSELF!

      http://www.thetruth-seeker.com/scanindexsubAcss.asp?indexID=4

      Prometheus

      p.s. Sorry to those getting the emails.
      The Truth-Seeker address needed to be corrected.
    • prometheus_973
      Since the 971st, 972nd, and 973rd ECK M/LEMs were all married twice... How many times was Rebazar Tarzs married, as well as, the other ECK Masters? Can Klemp
      Message 2 of 5 , Feb 4, 2009
        Since the 971st, 972nd, and 973rd ECK M/LEMs
        were all married twice... How many times was
        Rebazar Tarzs married, as well as, the other
        ECK Masters?

        Can Klemp tell us via using his "powers of
        perception?" Or, could HK simply ask these
        EK Masters on the "inner?" Are questions like
        this "forbidden" for chelas to ask? WHY?

        Hmmmmm. I wonder. Has this question ever been
        asked before? Could it be that Klemp and his cohorts,
        at the ESC (RESAs too), simply discourage questions
        (especially the juicy ones) because they, too, don't
        know the answers? Probably! Actually, it's more than
        "probably" it's a big Of Course! And, this is, also,
        WHY there's a lot of Second Guessing and Imagining
        going on "behind the scenes" (locally) in ECKankar!
        One has to have answers and connect the dots for
        peace of mind. This is what Faith and Belief are based
        upon. Thus, one has to imagine, assume, speculate,
        rationalize, self-hypnotize and delude oneself for
        religion to work best!



        prometheus wrote:

        Hello Leanne and All,
        Sure Twitch married Gail! He was born (according
        to Klemp) in 1908 and she was born in 1942! She
        was young, cute, ambitious, and she inspired and
        helped him to create ECKankar! She was his muse!
        Their mission was a two pronged effort that paid
        off, especially, for her and Klemp!

        Of course, P.T.'s out-dated chauvinistic attitude
        is another reason why the EK dogma was written,
        thus, disallowing (negative) women from becoming
        the M/LEM, although, female EK Masters are, supposedly,
        possible. Catch-22?

        Prometheus

        Leanne wrote:
        and he married Gail?

        LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE 971st ECK M/LEM
        SAID ABOUT THE NEGRO JUST ONE and a HALF
        YEARS BEFORE BECOMING THE LEADER of ECK!

        Prometheus wrote:
        Twitchell thought that both Women and Negroes
        should, basically, step back and know their place
        as second class citizens. And, this is supposedly
        a time (1963), according to Klemp, that Twitchell
        was a Higher Initiate and being instructed by ECK
        Master Rebazar Tarzs! After all, Twit was in training
        to become the LEM and leader of ECKankar in only
        one and a half (1.5) more years (1965)!

        Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle, Washington,
        JULY 9, 1963

        "Paul Twitchell, Man Of Parts by Jack Jarvis

        He spent nearly a year in India in a monastery
        [the head of a monastery is called the Mahanta]
        and five years with an Indian religious cult in Maryland.
        He still writes occasionally for a magazine published
        in Japan by an Indian religious group... In his best writing
        year, Twitchell says, he sold 1,200 stories and articles.
        [more self-promotion and lies!]

        Of the five novels he's had published (four of them
        in England), one, a mystery, may be filmed in England
        soon. Unpublished manuscripts share bookshelf space
        with scrapbooks of clippings.

        And he feels that if a certain New York publisher had
        more men than women reading manuscripts, his diatribe
        'All About Women' would have been published too.

        During his three years in Seattle, he's had one book and
        five short stories published and has sold one television
        script... by his own admission he's an 'authentic nondescript
        individualist' who is against... many things...

        he [Twitchell] dislikes career women...

        he is against 'the flapdoodle of these modern times,' i.e.
        togetherness, credit cards, insurance, and ranch-type
        homes in the city. He shuns routine,

        thinks the NEGRO is 'whacky as a bug' for wanting to
        get into the White man's society, is a loner and a rebel..."

        READ IT YOURSELF!

        http://www.thetruth-seeker.com/scanindexsubAcss.asp?indexID=4

        Prometheus
      • etznab@aol.com
        Prometheus, I liked the content in your 3rd paragraph. It reminded me about something. It has to do with history when the timeline disappears & nobody seems to
        Message 3 of 5 , Feb 4, 2009
          Prometheus,

          I liked the content in your 3rd paragraph.
          It reminded me about something.

          It has to do with history when the timeline
          disappears & nobody seems to really knows
          for sure what happened beyond a certain
          date.

          I suspect there are many reasons why the
          older history gets the more fabulous. And I
          imagine it has to do with the fact that much
          of ancient history amounts to people who
          are not authorities. Not eye witnesses to
          the events and / or the time period, but so
          many people, instead, quote for an authority
          anybody and everybody who said anything
          about it, ever.

          If one were following a trail of popcorn in
          the woods (bread crumbs, whatever) and
          they suddenly disappeared ...? How would
          one continue to follow the path and arrive
          at a destination? Imagination anyone?

          I think imagination can be well and fine at
          times, but also that it's often a poor excuse
          for lack of knowledge and ignorance about
          the truth! And sometimes imagination can
          make things much worse ... as anybody in
          the woods who ends up totally lost comes
          to find out.

          History is a hobby of mine, but I really do
          hate it when a supposed unique authority
          is found out to have only quoted someone
          else before them but made it look like they
          were the original source. Either that, or it
          might be some channeled and / or anony-
          mous being who was claimed to dictate
          the informatio
          n. Too bad though when the
          information dictated is found not to be so
          original, but it was common knowledge &
          written in books years ago. This begs the
          question of who is fooling who, IMO. And
          why?

          Etznab

          -----Original Message-----
          From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
          To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 2:28 pm
          Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Look at what Twitchell said
          about "the Negro" in 1963!



          Since the 971st, 972nd, and 973rd ECK M/LEMs

          were all married twice... How many times was

          Rebazar Tarzs married, as well as, the other

          ECK Masters?



          Can Klemp tell us via using his "powers of

          perception?" Or, could HK simply ask these

          EK Masters on the "inner?" Are questions like

          this "forbidden" for chelas to ask? WHY?



          Hmmmmm. I wonder. Has this question ever been

          asked before? Could it be that Klemp and his cohorts,

          at the ESC (RESAs too), simply discourage questions

          (especially the juicy ones) because they, too, don't

          know the answers? Probably! Actually, it's more than

          "probably" it's a big Of Course! And, this is, also,

          WHY there's a lot of Second Guessing and Imagining

          going on "behind the scenes" (locally) in ECKankar!

          One has to have answers and connect the dots for

          peace of mind. This is what Faith and Belief are based

          upon. Thus, one has to imagine, assume, speculate,


          rationalize, self-hypnotize and delude oneself for

          religion to work best!



          prometheus wrote:



          Hello Leanne and All,

          Sure Twitch married Gail! He was born (according

          to Klemp) in 1908 and she was born in 1942! She

          was young, cute, ambitious, and she inspired and

          helped him to create ECKankar! She was his muse!

          Their mission was a two pronged effort that paid

          off, especially, for her and Klemp!



          Of course, P.T.'s out-dated chauvinistic attitude

          is another reason why the EK dogma was written,

          thus, disallowing (negative) women from becoming

          the M/LEM, although, female EK Masters are, supposedly,

          possible. Catch-22?



          Prometheus



          Leanne wrote:

          and he married Gail?



          LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE 971st ECK M/LEM

          SAID ABOUT THE NEGRO JUST ONE and a HALF

          YEARS BEFORE BECOMING THE LEADER of ECK!



          Prometheus wrote:

          Twitchell thought that both Women and Negroes

          should, basically, step back and know their place

          as second class citizens. And, this is supposedly

          a time (1963), according to Klemp, that Twitchell

          was a Higher Initiate and being instructed by ECK

          Master Rebazar Tarzs! After all, Twit was in training

          to become the LEM and leader of ECKankar in only

          one and a half (1.5) more years (1965)!



          Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle, Washington,

          JULY 9, 1963=0
          D



          "Paul Twitchell, Man Of Parts by Jack Jarvis



          He spent nearly a year in India in a monastery

          [the head of a monastery is called the Mahanta]

          and five years with an Indian religious cult in Maryland.

          He still writes occasionally for a magazine published

          in Japan by an Indian religious group... In his best writing

          year, Twitchell says, he sold 1,200 stories and articles.

          [more self-promotion and lies!]



          Of the five novels he's had published (four of them

          in England), one, a mystery, may be filmed in England

          soon. Unpublished manuscripts share bookshelf space

          with scrapbooks of clippings.



          And he feels that if a certain New York publisher had

          more men than women reading manuscripts, his diatribe

          'All About Women' would have been published too.



          During his three years in Seattle, he's had one book and

          five short stories published and has sold one television

          script... by his own admission he's an 'authentic nondescript

          individualist' who is against... many things...



          he [Twitchell] dislikes career women...



          he is against 'the flapdoodle of these modern times,' i.e.

          togetherness, credit cards, insurance, and ranch-type

          homes in the city. He shuns routine,



          thinks the NEGRO is 'whacky as a bug' for wanting to

          get into the White man's society, is a loner and a rebel..."



          READ
          IT YOURSELF!



          http://www.thetruth-seeker.com/scanindexsubAcss.asp?indexID=4



          Prometheus
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