Klemp Confuses EKists With Co-worker Definitions
- In the Jan. 2009 "Tips For ECK Study" Klemp
has an article titled "Just Listen." In this
promotion Klemp states thus:
"People wonder, 'What does it mean to be
a Co-worker with God? Is it to go out and
give talks on ECK whenever somebody has
an interest that is beyond ordinary events
of this world?' It's Not Always Necessary.
Sometimes Just Listen to People. AND after
you've listened Enough, they're going to
I remember (the hypocrite) Klemp saying,
once, that he himself was more a talker
than a listener.
Now, let's look at what Klemp is really saying.
The emphasis is still on going out and giving
talks, but "it's not Always necessary" to give
talks. This is meant to take some pressure off
of those who don't like public speaking or who
have done enough speaking over the years.
This intro/public speaking stress is creating
problems within the ranks of the RESA org.
Also, Klemp is misusing the term of "Co-worker
with God!" ECKists should remember the difference
between being a "Co-worker with the Mahanta"
and of being a "Co-worker with God." After all,
Klemp created the term, "Co-worker with the
Mahanta." Just look at the EK Lexicon! Nowhere
in the Shariyats is the term Co-worker with the
Mahanta! And, it's not listed in Twitchell's ECKankar
So, can ECKists achieve "Co-worker" status by
giving talks? ECKists can become, and are, Co-workers
with the Mahanta by giving talks, but becoming
a CO-WORKER WITH GOD is much more difficult
under Klemp. According to Klemp's revised definition
to become a "Co-worker with God" one MUST first
become a 12th initiate and then "an ECK Master!"
Here are the definitions from Klemp's EK Lexicon:
"Co-worker with God. One who takes his place
in the guardianship of the beings and entities
throughout the worlds of God; voluntarily gives
great love and compassion to the worlds, AN ECK
MASTER." [Klemp added "An ECK Master" to PT's
This next quote comes from the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad
Book 2 Chapter 12 and concerns the 12th initiation:
"Those who reach these heights begin to learn
that they are now, in essence, the leaders within
the spiritual community of ECK. They are Ready
For Mastership and will be Approached by those
ECK Masters who are the body and brotherhood
of the ancient Order of the Vairagi, for membership
in this august body."
So, one can be a 12th Initiate and be "ready" for
"Mastership" but still not be an "ECK Master" until
"approached," and accepted, for "membership" in
the club (Order)!
Now, let's look at Klemp's EK Lexicon definition
for Mahanta Co-workership:
"Co-worker with the Mahanta. One who is In
Training for ECK Mastership. To Give of oneself
to Bring the Message of ECK to others, is Acting
as a Co-worker with the Mahanta."
See how this last definition of being a "Co-worker
with the Mahanta" actually fits with what Klemp
was saying. This bait and switch is meant to keep
ECKists off balance and always second guessing
him and confused. ECKists actually think that they
can become "Co-workers with God!" LOL! Under
Twitchell's definition it seems that this was once
possible, but Not under Klemp's rule.
Another thing that is rather comical is Klemp's
smiling picture next to the "Just Listen" article.
It's the older "Official" picture that makes Harry
look 10 years younger. How vain! Anyway, it's
funny to see him with that big smile while lying
through his teeth!
So, to sum it up we have Klemp misleading his
followers by tossing out the "Co-worker with God"
term (which he altered) when he should have used
the, lesser, "Co-worker with the Mahanta" definition.
Next, we have Klemp's Vanity for still using a younger
looking picture of himself. All of this can be seen as
"sign posts" for ECKists proving that Klemp is a fraud,
and is certainly, Not an ECK Master!