Klemp May "Change" His Plans For Joan!
- Hello Mish and All,
Klemp's "LOSER" comments show his anger
and a mean spirited, Truer, side to his nature.
It seems that Klemp is looking into a mirror
while saying these Neg. words. It's obvious
that he is the one that has a KAL like "Mental
Passion or Habit Like Anger" while referring
to "headstrong followers" as being "losers!"
Let's use Klemp's own words of "Fix Blame
On The Mahanta" to show chelas the truth!
When HK makes promises such as "PROTECTION"
and "HEALING," but can't Walk the Walk
he should be held accountable for his
unfulfilled promises and empty words!
Klemp, as LEM/Mahanta has a "RESPONSIBILITY"
to his followers... it's NOT One-Sided and
Only On The "INNER!" Where is the real outer
proof that he is Who he claims and has those
Special Powers when relatively young H.I.
Chelas are dying from Cancer! H.I.s are
supposed to be free of Karma and Klemp
claimed to resolve any additional Karma
for them! Didn't Klemp say that he was
"the holding tank for Karma," and that
this is the excuse he uses for his own
Also, Why are there so few 8th Initiates when
there are Hundreds of Long-Time 7ths! Klemp
can't even deliver on Outer Initiations! This
is even more frustrating for them as time runs
down. This fact also shows that Klemp's a tired,
old, stingy and fearful control freak! HK's fearful
of losing control by giving or sharing too much
power with others! Such are the ways of a narcissist!
Quotes from HK's "Those Wonderful ECK Masters:"
"... AN INABILITY TO CONTROL SOME MENTAL
PASSION or HABIT LIKE ANGER, THEN HIS
SPIRITUAL MOMENTUM STOPS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Of course, a headstrong follower always tries
to fix blame on the Mahanta, the Living ECK
Master when his attempts to advance in ECK
come to nothing.
BUT such an attitude changes nothing. The
INDIVIDUAL IS A LOSER and WILL CONTINUE
TO BE A LOSER until he adopts the practices
of a winner."
BTW - I have to agree with Mish that Klemp
might "CHANGE" his mind since we've outed
him by having foreseen his plan to elevate Joan
to EK Master status.
HK's plan has two motives:
(1) The EK Master status would appease Joan
and their marriage would, finally, be on a more
(2) The 12th would leave Joan in a more powerful
and secure position at the ESC, with a new LEM,
and would put her on a equal level with him so
that she can still keep an eye on things for Klemp!
I got it on the inner 3 years ago, after reading Klemp's
book "Those Wonderful ECK Masters," that his wife
Joan would be promoted to eck master/co-l.e.m. Various
comments and stories that Klemp wrote about in his
book were indicators and nudges that helped me to see
the light in what Klemp was planning for himself and Joan.
The book came at a time when Klemp was feeling somewhat
angry and vulnerable. He might have been getting it on his
inner that the foxes were circling his henhouse and he had
to protect himself . . . well, he might have said protect his
chickens (chelas) but I think we have some idea of how his
mind works--"it's all for Harry and all for Harry!" : )
Anyway, I wrote about this, cited passages from his book
that were subtly suggesting that Joan was going to be an
eck master, if not one already, and she would be right up
there on stage assisting Klemp and maintaining the power
base he just can't relinquish . . . he doesn't have the courage
to step down. He knows what he did to Darwin and there is
that karma stuff to worry about big time in his case!!
But now I think Klemp has reached a different level here
regarding Joan. He had her up on stage with him last year
at the WW and I imagine she was quite pleased to be there . . .
until Klemp so nastily humiliated her in front of and to the
shock of the chelas. Klemp was torn; he wasn't ready to share
the stage with even his beloved Joan . . . and besides, he
wouldn't want those of us here on ESA to appear in the
slightest correct in our predictions about Joan!
Well, I'm really sorry about this for Joan. It looks like the
plans have been shelved regarding Joan. Too bad; so sad!
Here's a revisit to an excerpt from Klemp's
"Those Wonderful ECK Masters," page 211:
"BELIEF in the Master's ever-present company
relies upon an individual's degree of unfoldment.
Actual inner experiences help one move to a greater
understanding of the ways of divine revelation.
BUT IF he chooses to hang on to shopworn karmic
debts due to, say, AN INABILITY TO CONTROL SOME
MENTAL PASSIONor HABBIT LIKE ANGER, THEN HIS
SPIRITUAL MOMENTUM STOPS. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Of course, a headstrong follower always tries to fix
blame on the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master when
his attempts to advance in ECK come to nothing.
BUT such an attitude changes nothing. The INDIVIDUAL
IS A LOSER and WILL CONTINUE TO BE A LOSER
until he adopts the practices of a winner.
I'm used to such misdirected slings. They go with my
position. I REALIZE THAT AT SOME POINT AN INDIVIDUAL
WILL BREAK FREE of his holding pattern AND AGAIN
SOAR HIGHER. It's when he's seen that ALL RESPONSIBILITY
FOR HIS UNFOLDMENT LIES WITH HIM ALONE."
It's interesting how Klemp will attribute his loser behavior
description to others when it so clearly describes him--
his angry and delusional mind in all his glory. Mish