Re: Ford's BBs are really getting cuckoo!
- Hi Ingrid,
Talking with Paul Twitchell (Peddar Zaskq, "Z") is more fun now!
>Hello Prometheus,Z, I have heard that at an HI retreat, people were singing "Z"
> I enjoyed your encounter with P. T. or "Z". :-) While speaking of
instead of Hu ... is this a new tactic to anchor HK even more in the
subconscious of Eckists?
*** Yes, it is a new brainwashing method of personal worship for HK
who is both LEM and Mahanta (Inner Master, Wah-Z, or Z like in
Zaskq). "Z" is not really a charged word, therefore, it does
indicate a personal and non-detached connection for the zealots or
unwary. And, it's another method of entrapment to prevent Spiritual
Freedom through the attachment and need for a "master" (either outer
or inner or both!).
> >> I recently had a conversation with P.T. (aka, Peddar Zaskq) andhe told me that "Sant Mat and Eckankar and all of this Living Master
stuff, (that he got from "The Path of the Masters" by fellow
Kentuckian Julian P. Johnson), was just a big pile of crap!" "Z"
(Zaskq) went on to say that "it was all a lot of fun and everyone
reads into things according to what they want to believe." He also
said, "sure I had to Westernize Sant Mat because how many Americans
want to become vegetarians and chaste!
> Oh yes, that's no fun! So better have this westernized form ...very clever. ;-)) I preferred that as well, at the times. :-)
*** Yes, I tried the vegetarian thing for three years, but could
never (or want to) do the chaste thing! Actually, a true Master can
live with and experience all those things in the field of action
without fear or guilt or the loss of spiritual consciousness. Only
those who have not yet reached this stage have to continue to do
these other disciplines! Unless, they just enjoy it or choose to
follow these habits.
> >>Anyhow, Peddar "Z" (He claims he went by this before Klemp!)*** Well, Gross gave Harold the Wah part of the Wah-Z but Klemp
> Well, who plagiarized whom in this case?? ;-)
liked the "Z" and probably did get the idea from the name Zaskq.
> >> says to "have fun in life and don't take all this stuff tooseriously...
> I like this conversation of yours, Prometheus! I think if I canhave one, too, I would want to have one of those, too! :-))
*** Go for it! It's like automatic writing when channeling this
stuff! Whose to say it is or isn't true? What is real what is a lie
what is imagination what is a joke or a scam? Maybe it can be all of
these or a combination... or not!
> >> I did at one time, but finally wised up!" (And), "the Cliff-Hanger thing was all about being your own Master as Soul!" In any
case, P.T. (Z) went on to say, "much of this has been written
before... anyone or anything can be a spiritual teacher from one
moment to the next, but Soul will always be Its own Master!" I
finally got a word in edge wise and was able to ask what he thought
about Harold? Peddar just gave out a very loud and uncontrollable
one syllable laugh of "Hah!" and then covered his mouth and chuckled
while shaking his head from side to side!!! His laughter was
contagious and others joined in!
> Do you think Harry would like to hear that? I guess not! I thinkyou could forget all the initiations you ever had should you ever
contemplate transmitting this journal to Harry. ;-))
*** Did you mean Harji Klemp? Yes this would probably anger HK if he
got wind of this! I would hate to hear his comments after what he
said about that Temporary Postal Clerk! But, don't kill the
> >> That was all I could get out of him! I saw a brief flash andthen recall him saying something else and then I immediately came
back here (physical reality). Let me just say that this was a
spiritual experience of the highest level! I'm filtering out most of
what happened just to communicate this brief experience in common
language. I doubt if many Eckists (Klemp included) could have even
handled a tenth of what took place on the Inner Planes with me,
Paulji, and SUG, et al!
> Ah yes - too strong! :-) Good that it was you who had theexperience, Prometheus! :-))
*** Yes, it was quite interesting. However, I did want to limit and
filter what was experienced (LOL!), and Not go into an extraneous
disingenuous diatribe like those Eckists (and others) do on Ford's