Mark Twain and George Carlin & Rumi!
- Hello Mish and All,
This was an excellent post on Mark Twain!
It seems that Klemp loves to drop names
and make it seem like anyone that has a
positive influence for change is somehow
connected to him via EK. What a lie and
Twain was very anti-religion and this
would have include Eckankar!
In the Dec. 2002 The Mystic World of
EK, (page 7) is a summary of Klemp's
2002 EWWS talk where Klemp spoke
of Twain. "Harji spoke about... Mark
Twain and his battle to release people
from thinking in terms of slavery."
HK: 'HE HAD THIS UNCANNY VISION
WHERE HE COULD SEE THROUGH ALL
THE ILLUSIONS OF MANKIND IN SOCIETY.'
Right! Including ALL religions!
Klemp has even stated that Twain was
guided by the ECK Masters (like Columbus?)
and yet Klemp states, "Mark Twain didn't
even have the satisfaction of knowing the
full message. Well, you in ECK today have
it. You know about ECK..."
Of course, Klemp is only talking about the
Ruhani teachings that Twitchell handed,
copyrighted and edited as his version of
Spirit (ECK). Twain knew far more about
Spirit, could write far better, and was a
greater advocate for a change in World
Consciousness than Klemp could ever
dream of doing!
But, do ECKists really have the full message
and truth about the real origins of ECKANKAR?
Read this about the God-Man:
Klemp pushes Carnegie's book "How To Make
Friends and Influence People" onto EK Vahanas
as a "training guide."
Once, when another Carnegie (Andrew) brought
up the idea that America was a Christian nation
Twain replied, "Why, Carnegie, so is Hell." [Time
Magazine, July 14, 2008] And, so it is for ECKists
too! Those Higher "ECK" Initiations.... aren't!
TIME writer Roy Blount Jr. gave this explanation
regarding Twain's gripes about religion and religious
"What put Twain off about religion was its bossiness
and its alignment with corrupt community values
that people--those standing to profit--insisted on
calling a higher power. The very expression 'moral
sense' made him curl his lip. He denounced his
own conscience, which frowned upon his anarchic
instincts, his love of enjoyment, and made him feel
guilty and rebellious . . . . "
Actually, I think that Twitchell was influenced by
Twain and tried to make himself into sort of a Mark
Twain wannabe. Twit talked of the Mississippi
River and grew up in a river town himself. One of
Twain's closest friends was a minister named Joseph
Twichell. Maybe the closeness of the spelling got
Twitchell's attention too, and PT saw this as a hint
coming from Destiny. The plagiarist and liar Twit
certainly fell far from the Mark!
But really, Klemp is such a fraud himself! He talks
out of both sides of his mouth. HK planned his
take over in a "Sound Proof Dark Room" with Darwin.
The only aspect of "ECK" Klemp knows of is After
It has split into It's Lower Negative aspect. HK's a
poser and has to drop names because he can't
even write on the same level of consciousness
as others in the past have including RUMI and TWAIN.
In the Dec. 2007 The Wisdom Notes Klemp quotes
Mark Twain and Rumi. HK: "Mark Twain... 'The
common eye sees only the outside of things, and
judges by that, but the seeing eye pierces through
and reads the heart and the soul, finding there
capacities which the outside didn't indicate or promise,
and which the other kind of eye couldn't detect.'
Twain was an instrument of truth, for much of his
guidance came from ECK Masters."
Yet, in his 2002 EWWS talk, HK states that
ECKists in 2002 had a stronger and a "full"
knowledge of "ECK" than what Twain had.
So Why does Klemp quote Twain so often
and in 2007? Apparently Klemp doesn't have
the "full" knowledge himself! Such is the case
with these wannabes.
Even Rumi prayed to and was given inspiration
and insights by a 2nd or 4th Plane God (Kal/Satan)
according to Klemp in his Autobiography.
Why, then, does Klemp quote Rumi so often?
The Catch-22 game is to stay the Top Dog by
associating other famous people with him via
the ECK, but by still making HK's opinions,
perspectives, and hindsight "twist" the highest
and best view ever! Such is the delusion and con
that Twitchell perfected and that Klemp continues!
From Time Magazine:
In the 1880s a British poet and cultural critic
named Matthew Arnold visited the U.S. and
was troubled by the way Americans appeared
to lack any capacity for reverence toward superior
men. "If there be a discipline in which the Americans
are wanting," he pronounced, "it is the discipline
of awe and respect."
This isn't the case with American ECKists when
Klemp comes on stage! The oohs and ahhs and
giddy laughter show that ECKists have an awe
and respect for King Klemp.They have Klemp
on a pedestal like a monarch or dictator and
they view his 4th Plane words as wisdom beyond
Everything Klemp says is for those who, also,
have arrested development or some dysfunction
and can't stand on their own two spiritual feet.
After how many years does it take for an ECKist
to become their own Master? Oh, that's right it's
all about those initiation numbers! What about
all of those 7ths who have hit the glass ceiling?
Where do they go and when... in the next lifetime
or is after death the promise?
And so it goes on and on into an endless round
of B.S. for the typical ECKist to hang their fears