Re: Marriage Date? / Paul & Gail Twitchell
- Thanks for sharing that history.
I had the January 17th date for the
marriage certificate and the 7th for
the date when they were married (so
the need to clarify, because what I
had didn't look right).
I'll have to check out that link.
It will be very helpful - and to keep
these dates in mind when reading over
the Letters to Gail, the Wisdom Notes
and other events from that time frame.
Much thanks for the help.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
> Hi Etznab and All,
> The first LINK on this site's LINK page
> has most of the information you are
> seeking... "A" Plus- Early Twitch &
> Eckankar History.
> BTW- Paul Twitchell's first name was
> the same as his father's... JACOB and
> Not John! When Ford Johnson put this
> info on his Truth-Seeker site he made
> some mistakes in the titles, but if you
> look at all of the documents you will,
> eventually, see the correct information.
> And, it's very likely that Paul used John
> versus Jacob. Paul would only use the
> first letter "J" on some legal documents.
> On the marriage certificate for Paul &
> Gail it states that her birthdate is July
> 18, 1942. Paul gave Oct. 22, 1922 as
> his birthdate when it was probably
> Oct. 22, 1909. This marriage certificate
> was issued on Jan. 15, 1964 and they
> were married on Jan. 17, 1964.
> Thus, Paul was still lying just before he
> created Eckankar and while he was supposedly
> meeting with Rebazar. Remember that Klemp
> states on Eckankar.org that Paul was "exaggerating
> and twisting facts" (lying) in 1935 in order
> to get into Who's Who in Kentucky. It should
> be noted too that Twitchell wrote "exaggerated"
> articles for "Ripley's Believe it or Not" close
> to the time that he and Gail created Eckankar.
> Also, their marriage certificate info points out
> that Gail had turned 21 on July 18, 1963,
> therefore, their marriage took place 6 months
> AFTER her 21st birthday!
> I also found the death certificate for Katherine
> (Kay-Dee, i.e. Kata Daki) Twitchell Iverlet. This
> is Paul's sister that he wrote about teaching him
> how to Soul Travel. She died on Mar. 11, 1959
> and was buried on Mar. 13, 1959. The death
> certificate was recorded on Mar. 17, 1959.
> She died in Paducah, KY and had been under
> treatment since Nov. 12, 1958.
> BTW- Remember, too, that Brad Steiger has
> stated that he only reported what Twitchell
> told him. Steiger never verified anything
> including dates.
> etznab wrote:
> > >
> It was message number 2590 that
> gave a date of birth for Gail.
> > >
> > >
> On the same thread, message 2596
> mentioned something about a marriage
> license taken out in January 1964.
> Can someone clarify this? Was the
> license taken out in January, but the
> marriage happened later?
> The years 1963-1964, I believe,
> were important historical years for
> what later would become known as the
> teachings of "Eckankar", IMO. One of
> the reasons for researching the date
> of marriage is simply to clarify the
> information I already have.
> For some reason I have the 7th of
> January, 1964 recorded for the date
> of marriage between Paul & Gail, but
> I don't remember the source of that
> information and / or how reliable it
> Something recorded in the book In
> My Soul I Am Free kinda made me want
> to double check the January 1964 date.
> It was this:
> "I went to San Francisco in late
> November of '64 and left her in
> Seattle. Then I couldn't stand it
> there without her, so I drove back
> to her home near South Bend, Washing-
> ton, and married her."
> [Based on: IN MY SOUL I AM FREE, by
> Brad Steiger, p. 66]
> Paul reportedly mentioned someplce
> in his writings that he wouldn't marry
> Gail until she was 21. Actually it may
> have been mentioned in the same IMSIAF
> paragraph, of which I only quoted part.
> (And, not more than a couple of pages
> earlier he mentioned they were married
> in 64'. Along with something about
> Rebazar Tarzs showing up thereafter.)
> According to a post here on 05/17/07
> Gail was born July 17th, 1942 - if my
> records are correct (I hope they are).
> That would mean she turned 21 on July,
> 17, 1963. [I'm not absolutely certain
> on this.]
> I wonder if the late November 1964
> date (quoted earlier) should have read
> 1963, but I'm just rather confused at
> this point, given the information that
> I've seen.
> If they didn't get married until
> November 1964 (or after), it would mean
> they waited until over a year later to
> finally getting married.
> Can't be certain on credibility for
> any of the dates I've just given, as all
> are pretty much second-hand information
> at the least. This is why I'm searching
> to get better clarification.