Re: PT's Dictated Info vs. HK's Astral Info
- Hi Jivat and All,
My focus was upon all things EK within Eckankar.
This, mainly, was following the letter of the law (i.e.
the spoken and unspoken rules and procedures, my
RESA, and the Guidelines and other instructions from
the ESC and via Klemp's direct comments/advice in
official EK publications and/or in the EK Shariyats.
I was Not one to pick and choose. These ECKists,
especially H.I.s, would not last long under certain
"hands-on" RESAs that required all EK Leaders to
be on the "same page" within the EK Hierarchy,
Guidelines, etc. Thus, Sh_t rolls downhill, or As
Above So Below!
However, I was always a skeptic, of sorts, and this is
where the contradictions and Klemp's simple-minded
and Christian approach began to annoy & frustrate me.
I had more spiritual and/or psychic experiences than
most H.I.s "before" I joined Eckankar!
I shrugged off David Lane's comments when I first learned
of them back in 1990. Afterall, he was an outsider so how
could he "know" of the Inner Master and Mahanta!
However, when I read "Confessions of a God Seeker" by
7th Initiate and RESA Ford Johnson, whom I had met
in person, this was worth another (closer) look.
It did take me quite a long time to get through Ford's
book because I was confirming his information with
"The Path of the Masters" by Julian P. Johnson. And,
I also did a lot of contemplating and Soul searching
in order to understand and to finally see and know
the Truth! It all, now, made sense. The contradictions
became understandable. Eckankar was the accumulation
of lies, distortions, plagiarisms and fiction from a
spiritual wannabe and Con man... Twitchell & now Klemp!
BTW-Here's another look at JOAN prior to and at the
time she joined Eckankar!
[Look at- "66 FELIX ACADEMICUS"]
You mentioned that "most ECKists pick and choose what they want to
believe regardless of what Klemp forces upon them." It was precisely
my attitude. I saw Eckankar as an inspiring starting point with all
kinds of trails leading to the study of various philosophies, systems
My fascinating discoveries outside Eckankar kept me so busy that I
almost totally overlooked the frauds, contradictions, etc. In other
words, I'm not frustrated like people who followed the teachings to
the letter and found the truth. I still decided to play a minor role
in dispelling the Eckankar myths, mostly using sarcasm and humor.
Hi Sharon and All,
Twitchell claimed he had info "dictated" to
him by EK Masters and Klemp claims it was
"researched" in the "Astral Library!" Which
story do ECKists want to believe?
PT's version sounds like his "dictated" info was
more advanced and from "higher" sources than
Klemp's "Astral" version!
The truth is that most ECKists pick and choose
what they want to believe regardless of what
Klemp forces upon them. Only those long-time
H.I.s in "settler positions" who have "hands-on"
RESAs have to follow the party line and parrot
back the correct EK-Speak!
Thanks for the post!
Wanted to add more links to this thread.
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