- Hi, Ingrid! I m sorry I haven t posted my OBE yet, but I will eventually! I have a feeling that many unfortunately will be able to relate to the story. MishMessage 1 of 8 , Mar 30 4:22 PMView SourceHi, Ingrid!
I'm sorry I haven't posted my OBE yet, but I will eventually! I have
a feeling that many unfortunately will be able to relate to the
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "ctecvie"
> Hello Mish,
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "mishmisha9"
> <mishmisha9@y...> wrote:
> > Hi, Ingrid and Prometheus!
> > I was only a lowly 2nd Initiate when I quit! I had already
> > into a lot of trouble with H.I.'s in my area so I think I wasyour
> > destined at best to remain a 2nd!
> I think, too, that it was best for you to remain a 2nd! :-) In
> lowly state of consciousness you shouldn't have gotten into anyinto
> trouble because you didn't understand anything yet! Anyway, when I
> was a lowly 2nd I didn't ask much and most certainly didn't get
> any trouble! ;-))be
> >I just blurted out things too
> > much! : ) I will have to post my "out of body" experience that
> > up two H.I.'s--the local director (a 7th Initiate) and a 6th
> > Initiate who is being mentored by the state's spiritual services
> > director and longtime major seminar speaker (and who claims to
> > on an inside direct track to Harold.) : ) I was getting myselfin
> > deeper and deeper trouble, it seems.was
> I'm looking forward to your OBE!
> > Now, when I look at all of these eckists and all the stuff that
> > taking place, I can't help but think "much ado about nothing." Inot
> > also had the training book, but I had just received it and had
> > read any of it before tossing it in the trash! I did read a lotof
> > Eck books, including all of Harold's transcripts and severalothers
> > he "wrote." I discovered a lot of recycled stories in all ofthem--
> > very little new stuff in any of it. And of course, the storieswere
> > not his for the most part, but those taken from the dutifuleckists
> > who sent him their "enlightening" stories!reports,
> He recycled many of the initiate reports' stories in his talks as
> well. When I heard that it was not only Harold who read the
> I stopped sending them. I still wrote them, but only for me. Itwas
> good that I stopped sending them I think.site.
> > Well, enough for now! Thanks, Prometheus for setting up this
> > It's a nice place to share our Eckankar experiences. It willleaving
> > probably help others to realize that they are not alone in
> > eckankar and that the reasons for leaving are basicallyuniversal
> > for us--we all woke up to the sham!force,
> Yes this site is cool! I have found out recently that life goes on
> and doesn't care at all whether we are in Eckankar or not - all we
> have to do, in my opinion, is to open ourselves to the greater
> to Spirit, and that is that!
- Hello Prometheus and Mish, ... enough ... for ... in ... We were at the Spiritual Skills Seminar 2003 in Washington. It was fun for us! We thought it wasMessage 2 of 8 , Apr 3, 2005View SourceHello Prometheus and Mish,
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
> Yes, I too want to hear about the OBE of Mish's. I wonder how the
> Spiritual Skills Seminar went? Not really! LOL! I've been to
> meetings, trainings, and workshops to know that it is basicallyfor
> those who are new to intros, book discussions, etc. and is mostlyin
> just a pep talk for the experienced and active "settlers" (those
> support positions) and "explorers" (vahana/missionaries).We were at the Spiritual Skills Seminar 2003 in Washington. It was
fun for us! We thought it was something new and exciting and we
enjoyed it a lot. Of course now we know that those techniques are
introduced only for recruitment and not for personal development.
Seen from this point of view, it doesn't seem so attractive any more.
> there is a slightly new focus or some new techniques shared. Butthe
> actually, I always got the update from the RESA Star on new or
> successful Arahata/Vahana methods that were just re-enforced in
> workshops. The problem that most Eckists have is that they areinbetween,
> introverts, their spiritual experiences seem far and few
> and what they have experienced spiritually is private and personalup
> and cannot be easily shared. Other Eckists have no trouble making
> or telling their stories. Some Eckists just like to be the centerof
> attention. They love to be admired. I can see this with those whoIn Washington, I met an eckist who was this type - very introverted
> have left Eckankar as well. It's tough on some of these egomanics
> because they no longer have those Higher Initiations.
and she didn't seem to have a great sense of humor. To me, it seemed
as if she was drying out from the inside - and I thought once again
how weird it was that Eckankar could attract such weird people! It
was not for the first time I noticed that.
I notice, too, that some ex-eckists haven't left Eckankar completely
and never will. So, once again, we will have to be very, very
careful to look for those old patterns inside ourselves.