Did The Mahanta Help With His Mother's Translation?
- View SourceIn ECKANKAR's March, 2008 "The Mystic World" Klemp
talks of helping with the translation (death) of "Shelia's"
What about helping with his own mother's translation
(death)? What's the story there? Klemp's mother was a
life-long member of the Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church
-Missouri Synod in Fremont, WI. and died in June of 2005
at age 91.
[See messages #3152 & #3160]
HK: "Translation, death, is an initiation"
ME: ECK 4th & 7th Initiates must be looking forward
to their death and that next, 5th or 8th, Initiation!
Maybe some ECKists will think Klemp is saying it's
okay to speed up the initiation/translation process
via alternative methods, or from a lack of medical
HK: "A health practitioner, Shelia used energy medicine
and acupuncture to assist healing."
ME: It doesn't seem like these alternative methods have
helped Klemp much. Look at his EMR problems, etc. And,
what about Klemp's inability to heal his own chelas? Klemp
takes credit for everything that can't be proven. However,
Why can't HK (the Mahanta) rearrange chelas' DNA and
these "effects" (cancer, etc.) due to the Past Life Karma?!
HK's all talk... it's the smoke and mirrors of a Black Magician
and KAL agent!
HK: "During her weeklong stay in the hospital, Mary
began to lapse into dementia. Sheila tried an energy
technique on her, time permitting. This brought Mary
back; the dementia disappeared. Then Mary was transferred
to a nursing home, where the staff tried to rehabilitate her."
ME: Well, for one thing when one is sick and is approaching
the final stage of life one can go in and out of dementia.
Nothing one can do will really help all that much. But, Why
can't the Mahanta help with his Super Dooper "Healing Powers?"
2nd Initiate Jesus did much better! Couldn't HK send healing
rays via Mary's daughter, Shelia, since she is HK's chela.
Wouldn't Shelia act as a clear conduit for the Healing Energy
of the ECK (Mahanta)? Maybe Adam DreamHealer could
have helped more than Klemp?! : )
However, "nursing homes" don't, can't, and aren't designed
to "rehabilitate" people! Klemp is out-of-touch with reality...
HK: "Mary announced she wanted to go home, a relief for
Shelia. She had often promised her mother she would
not let her spend her last days in a nursing home."
ME: Once again, Klemp is looking at this subject from
a narrow, and one dimensional point-of-view. Almost
every new patient in a nursing home wants to go home!
Shelia is looking at this from a "promise-keeper" and
guilt/fear perspective. Good Nursing Homes and Hospices
are there for those people who can't give loved ones
24/7 care. It can become too much for most working
and even stay-at-home people to deal with. It doesn't
mean that one doesn't love their father or mother by
putting them in a nursing home or a hospice. Usually,
it is done out of love and concern that they get the proper,
necessary, and skilled care that these loved ones deserve!
Another thing... sometimes relatives are not even recognized
due to various physical/mental health conditions even
when the dying person is at home. It seems that Klemp
is promoting Only the way in which Shelia dealt with her
mother and that situation. This is a very narrow and limiting
perspective that depicts the reality of HK's lower/narrow
minded consciousness and of his arrested development.
How did Klemp deal with his mother's death and with
his relatives? Was Harold at his mother's bed-side telling
her to "Sing HU... Wah Z" or to "Look for the man in the
Blue Suit," or to "Look for the Blue Light" of the "Mental
HK: "Shelia knows that WAH Z, the INNER MASTER, is
ALWAYS on hand TO HELP ECKists AND their DEAR ONES.
So for days on end, she would sing , 'HU... Wah Z.' And
into her mother's ear, she would whisper, 'LOOK for the
man in the BLUE SUIT,' or, 'LOOK for the BLUE LIGHT.'
... Do you see WAH Z?"
ME: Funny, that Darwin Gross came up with the "WAH"
for Klemp's spiritual name! Funny, too, that Klemp claims
that WAH Z, the "INNER MASTER," is "ALWAYS" on hand
(24/7) to Not Only Help ECKists, but to also "help" their
BTW- Klemp didn't even go to his own father's funeral
(Oct. 1971) in order to be with and to console his mother
with the "Blue Light." And, What about Klemp's father?
Did HK show his father "the man" in the "Blue Suit" or
the "Blue Light?" Did HK have his father chant "Dap Ren?"
Nope! He's never mentioned anything about their translations!
HK: "A second dream showed both of them on the Mental
ME: So, a non-ECKist (Mary) sees the BLUE MAHANTA and
gets to go to the Mental Plane after her translation (death).
Actually it was Shelia, her daughter, that imagined this via
a dream that she needed in order to feel good about her
mother and about her religion. It seems that this as "high"
as all ECKists and Non-ECKists end up according to the
reality of ALL Lower Plane Religions like Eckankar.
Really, Klemp is sort of good (not!) at telling other people's
stories in order to create "filler" for another book to sell.
HK sucks at telling the Truth because he doesn't know the
Truth! Where does he put anything he promotes into practice
for himself, and for his sick and dying Higher Initiates?
"Restrooms Are Unisex! Change is Change" It's illusion!
Jesus did it better!
Yes, what a load of crap Klemp sells! This just goes to
show that Klemp, the so-called Mahanta & "Modern Prophet,"
is "full" of it... (B.S.) and NOT that of a Higher Mahanta
Consciousness! Klemp is more of an Astral Plane guru
and small town preacher. HK doesn't fulfill the Shariyat
criteria for: "Mahanta, birth of." : )