- Yes, and I guess what I am saying is that we aren't a god. I think
that would be just more delusion. We are alive, and we is what we is,
human. "sometimes I just sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sit"
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "mishmisha9"
> Hi, Non ekster and All!
> I think you make a good point about being your own god man.
> I prefer the little "m" master to big "M" Master in reference to myself.
> I believe in the spark of God within that guides me, but the
> of my actions and beliefs fall on me--my being responsible for whateverrather
> I do or say. But I suppose that stressing that one is his own Master
> than depending/needing a Godman helps those to drop that dependencyprefer
> as in cults like eckankar.
> I also think your example of running the open expanse without worrying
> about making mistakes is very good advice--because try as hard as we
> might, we are not perfect. To seek perfection is probably not healthy in
> the long run for anyone! So why worry about it? : ) Perhaps, people
> following leaders (spiritual and otherwise), because they fear that openone is
> run! But in order to unleash that freedom after being indoctrinated in
> a cult and man-made religious teachings, one would need to see himself
> as his own master--using the little "m" might be the better way to show
> this, though? Certainly, enjoying one's life can't be achieved if
> worrying about becoming/being perfect.boy, is
> Anyway, I'm enjoying reading "The Kite Runner,"--just a few pages into
> it, and I must say it looks like excellent reading. Amir, the young
> confronting his father about what his mullah is teaching him inschool. It
> seems that Amir's father is a sinner of sorts, so Amir is confused.His father
> helps to explain to his son that "first . . . you'll never learnanything of value
> from those bearded idiots." His father goes on to explain, "nomatter what the
> mullah teaches, there is only one sin, only one. And that is theft.Every other
> sin is a variation of theft." I must admit that I never thought oftheft as
> encompassing all sins, but this is a good point. The theft of one'smastership
> by a mullah, a mahanta, or any other supposedly religious guru is a sin!of a cult.
> So, claiming self-mastery is important in getting out of the bonds
> Harold Klemp who professes something he is not, the greatestconsciousness
> known to mankind, is a big fat sinner! And just as much an idiot asthose
> bearded idiot mullahs! : )
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "Non ekster"
> <eckchains@> wrote:
> > I see a lot of posts referring to being your own Master as a way to
> > escape the Cult Dogma of ECKANKAR's godman, but I must admit that
> > sometimes I wonder what this means. The LEM is supposed to be
> > basically infallible. It sounds sometimes like being your own MASTER
> > also means that you are infallible, without needing a godman, that you
> > are your own god. That is also a lot of pressure for someone to put on
> > themselves.
> > Wouldn't it be better to say that you are your own person living as
> > best you can and learning every day, yet realizing that we all make
> > mistakes and are not perfect. Maybe there is no ultimate answer.
> > Maybe it is enough to just realize that you are not a slave or a dog
> > on a collar and leash, and just run for the open expanse, even if that
> > means that we don't know what we are doing half the time.
> > I'd rather have that than some false security.