Re: ECKANKAR Is A Copy Of Other Lower Plane Religions
- Hi Mish, Christel, and All,
When looking at Rev. Harold Klemp's former
Church 'Z'ion Evangelical Lutheran --Missouri
Synod I saw that there were 2 other Klemp's
listed as Past members/founders and a third
is a Present-day member!
Yes, it could be that this ZION connection is
one subconscious source for Klemp choosing
'Z' for his spiritual name. Although, when Klemp
was almost finished writing "The Wind of Change"
(circa Spring 1980) he was writing a Chapter on
his family's farm cat named Zsa Zsa. Klemp wrote
her name and 'Z' over 40 times in this chapter!
This Chapter on Zsa Zsa was written around the
time Darwin Gross asked Klemp to come up with
his "spiritual name." Klemp, at first, just came up
with 'Z.' Darwin (the Black Magician) suggested
adding the "WAH" to make it "WAH-Z." [Soul Travelers
of the Far Country, Ch. 7]
Klemp's Spiritual Name was given to him by a
[Past/Present/Future?] Black Magician and Wah-Z
is still used today as a "Charged Word" for chanting
during ECK Spiritual Exercises. However, other contributions
etc. by Gross are forbidden for ECKists to see, read,
or speak of. Darwin's name is forbidden to use
and ECKists who speak his name at ECK functions
are placed on a "watch list" by their H.I. Leaders,
RESA and the ESC.
Apparently Klemp still fears Darwin's influence over
his chelas. One wonders WHY HK (the Mahanta) can't
"protect" them from DG's spiritual influence?! Maybe
the "WAH" needs to be dropped from Klemp's spiritual
name since Darwin contributed it! Klemp needs to do
more editing and rewrites to "Change" more ECK history!
BTW-Maybe the influence of Luther & 'Z'wingli, also,
Subconsciously influenced HK to choose 'Z' since
he sees himself as a "reformer" of sorts. Klemp
was definitely a crazed bridge jumping 'Z'ealot! : )
Here's the link to the church Klemp grew up in:
The Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church--
Missouri Synod, located in Freemont WI.
>Ever wonder how Klemp got the "Z" in his
spiritual name? LOL!
>Anyway, click on the links to learn about this
branch of the Lutheran Church-very interesting! : )
> >You're right, Christel, that chelas are taught
that eckankar is the original religion and all
other religions have copied it. Funny thing
is how "twisted" HK has twisted eckankar into
a somewhat spinoff from his early religion--
Missouri Lutheran Synod. I was looking at the
church he grew up in website, their rules and
such, and gee, I could see how HK used some
of that in his "new" eckankar. That's not being
original for sure, but of course all religions
including the Missouri Lutheran Synod, Eckankar,
etc. all believe they have the inside track on
truth. So silly really! LOL! I believe these man-
made religions are only distractions with a lot
of control and manipulation going on, interfering
with people's lives. It's an inside track to delusion
and confusion as chelas disappear into more and
more of the cult trappings! : )
> >Christel wrote:
> > >'Eckankar is no copy' - when i said this.
The answer was the information about the Akasha
Chronic: there all are going to and get their text....
and: it isn't god to read other books as Eckankars,
so i was told! so surrender Eckists couldn't know
about their origins! Have you forgotten this important
sujets? lol, Christel